Sean embarks on a spontaneous journey through Italy, blending family history with unplanned adventures, from tracking down ancestral records to indulging in the country’s best food and festivals. This episode captures the magic of unscripted travel, proving that the best experiences come when you let the journey guide you.
Most people dream of visiting Italy for its rich history, world-renowned food, and breathtaking landscapes. But what happens when a trip is more than just sightseeing? In this episode of Random and Unscripted, Sean shares his deeply personal journey through Italy—one that wasn’t about ticking destinations off a list but about rediscovering roots, embracing spontaneity, and letting the experience shape itself.
Trains, Food, and Ancestral Connections
What starts as a casual discussion quickly turns into a story about traveling through Italy by train, stopping in places both famous and obscure, and experiencing the country in an unstructured, immersive way. Sean recounts his journey from Pisa to Sicily, highlighting the unexpected moments that made the trip unforgettable—like eating fresh mozzarella and tomatoes straight from local markets or navigating train strikes with a mix of patience and humor.
But this wasn’t just a trip for the sake of travel. It was a return to his family’s origins, a search for something deeper. In Palermo, Sean attempts to track down official birth records of his ancestors, stepping into a municipal building filled with centuries-old documents. Meanwhile, in a small Sicilian town, a chance encounter at a local café connects him to a relative by marriage, proving that sometimes, history has a way of finding you.
The Beauty of Unplanned Travel
There’s something about wandering without a rigid itinerary that leads to the most unexpected discoveries. Whether it’s finding the best gelato in Salerno, getting swept up in a local festival, or realizing that his great-grandfather’s name is inscribed on a town’s war memorial, Sean’s experience proves that travel isn’t just about places—it’s about stories.
This episode isn’t just about Italy. It’s about the joy of unscripted moments, the importance of stepping off the beaten path, and the power of exploring where you come from. If you’ve ever thought about taking a trip just to see where the road leads, this conversation might be the push you need.
Listen now and let the randomness take you somewhere unexpected.
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
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Marco Ciappelli: [00:00:00] All right, Sean, I've been waiting for you.
Sean Martin: The red button has been pressed.
Marco Ciappelli: I'm just like here chilling. It's Friday, Friday afternoon. It's been a busy week. It has made a lot of stuff happen and now we're gonna chill for 15, 20 minutes talking about, talking about what,
Sean Martin: what do you want to talk about?
Something random and unscripted.
Marco Ciappelli: All right, all right, all right. So, you know, I'm here drinking some cold brew coffee and it makes me wonder, um, would I like to go visit Italy? Would you ever been there?
Sean Martin: Have you been before?
Marco Ciappelli: Oh, no, no, no. Wait, wait. That should have been the question for you. I kind of made a mistake.
So, I love Italy. But I am, you know, I have to to say that because I was born there. But, um, [00:01:00] I'm wondering If as many times happen when I tell people that I am from Florence, Italy, they're like, Oh my God, Italy is so cool. I want to go there. And I said, you know, because you never leave there when you go on vacation, everything is cool.
Sean Martin: It's great. We're on vacation.
Marco Ciappelli: Right. Everything is great when you're in litigation. And, um, so I want to ask you that, uh, have you ever been in Italy?
Sean Martin: I think, I think I've spent a couple minutes there at some point. I've been, been many times. Uh, obviously, you know, the answer. I've been in many times, uh, for conferences, for fun.
Rome, Milan, Venice, Florence.
Marco Ciappelli: That doesn't count. That's shit. I
Sean Martin: know, Rome doesn't count to me. It's like saying he went to France, then he went to Paris. But, uh, no, I think
Marco Ciappelli: Romans are hating me right now. Francesco Cipollone, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it.
Sean Martin: Frankie, sorry, man. But, uh, [00:02:00] I didn't say it. No, but I think There's one thing about If you're going for a conference, it's another If you're going on vacation, like I've been to Milan during fashion week, I've been to Venice during the festival, and
Marco Ciappelli: She's always in the wrong time.
Sean Martin: I know, it's when everybody else is there. This other story, there was a festival as well, the Festival of Roses, which, that was really cool, and it was busy. But, um, this particular time, you and I were in London,
and
I popped over to Dublin, and then from there, Went to actually maybe a quick stop in Brittany in France to visit a good friend of mine and then then off to Lisbon.
I went for a conference. You know, I thought Lisbon. I'm very close to Italy.
Marco Ciappelli: It sounds like my mom and my dad. Oh, if you're [00:03:00] in London, you're right. That's right there. Just jump on the plane and come to Florence. Yeah, there you go. That's the way.
Sean Martin: The best direct flight into Italy from Lisbon is Pisa. So I thought, you know, I've not been to Pisa.
So I'll go to Pisa and, and what's close to Pisa where you're born, where your parents are, and I'm telling you, man, I, you're, you're. Your father wasn't, uh, able to be there, but your mother was an amazing host and some of the best meals I've ever had. And some actually had a chance to practice, pretend I was learning.
She's very, very patient, but, uh, I was a great time spending time with your mother and, and from, from your house there and just outside of Florence, I got to experience some of the. The, uh, [00:04:00] the history and the museums and the whole vibe of, of the city of Florence. It was, it was pretty, pretty cool, man.
Marco Ciappelli: Yeah.
Well, you know, it's, we've been talking about that for a very long time, which is, we gotta go to Florence. together so I can show you around at some point and then it didn't work out. I had to come back to the U. S. And you won. And honestly, I'm really glad that you did. But the reason why in this random and unscripted, which haven't even introduced this show, because at this point we just show up and just talk about our own business.
I guess people want to hear they can. Um, people may be surprised that we're not actually talking about technology, cyber security. But we're talking about society because, you know, we're talking about traveling. We're talking about your experience to go in Italy. And, and that's why I said, it's Friday. It doesn't always have to be about business.
It is about business most of the time, or about the things that we, we, we discuss on our show and, [00:05:00] and this is just chilling and in the week, and I hope it's going to become more and more of a tradition because I'm looking forward to it. So this set, I said, you know, you went there and you had a goal. Like you had a reason beside the fact that you like to travel and you have friends all over the world, which is very Sean of you, you in there because there is one side of your family that has connection there.
And, uh, and I, I want to hear that story. That's 1520 minutes are about. I want to hear your story going back and look at that. Sean, that is yeah. You know, Italian without speaking Italian, one day I'll get you there, but yeah, it'll have, yeah, no, yeah,
Sean Martin: whatever I learned last summer is probably gone at this point.
But anyway. Yeah. So the. The interesting thing [00:06:00] is great grandfather came to the U. S. through Ellis Island from Sicily. And when he moved here, he's a piano wire maker.
Marco Ciappelli: Oh, I can talk about that. They all show, but keep going. So, and he
I mean, how cool is that?
Sean Martin: That is very
cool. Piano maker? On 5th Avenue in Manhattan.
And that was pretty cool. Funny enough, lived just a few blocks from where I live now in Manhattan, which is pretty cool as well. I found out some of that stuff before I went to Italy, but what I wanted to know was, where did he live as a kid? And his wife, my great grandmother, where did she live as a kid?
And so, While Pisa was the entry point [00:07:00] into Italy.
Marco Ciappelli: Your L. A. Island.
Sean Martin: My L. S. Island, yes. Uh, the destination was Sicily. And, uh, so I, I'm not going to go through all the, all the whole trip, but I basically, literally from Pisa, even from the airport to Pisa, to the town of Pisa, was, uh, All train. I took the train from Pisa to Florence down the coast into Messina in, uh, in Sicily.
And, I mean, that, that was like, I forget, like five weeks, four and a half weeks of hiking and eating and hiking and drinking and hiking and listening to music and hiking and looking at art and history and museums. It was quite the, uh, quite the experience.
Marco Ciappelli: Cause you could have fun there. You could have just,
Sean Martin: I could have flown straight to, straight, straight to Palermo,
Marco Ciappelli: [00:08:00] straight to Palermo.
And as many times we
Sean Martin: do, I wanted to experience, as you know, probably many, many people don't. Um, it's similar in many places, right? The, the culture and the experiences, even the food and some, some regions are different than others. So further north. Different than in the south, the terrain and the climate and everything is the food, right?
Marco Ciappelli: It's too easy to say Italian food. Now tell me about that. You know, like you've been in the north.
Sean Martin: I'm not versed enough to describe the differences.
Marco Ciappelli: Well, but you tasted something. There's something unique for each region and for each city. Sometimes from Florence and Siena, you have different. You have different ways you even cook something that is the same thing, but you use a different ingredient.
So going from the north to the south, it's, it's a whole different story. It is.
Sean Martin: So I, I, [00:09:00] I had a lot of pizza. So the pizza is
Marco Ciappelli: Gelato?
Sean Martin: And I, I literally every place I stopped, I tried the gelato just to see. Um, the, I'm trying to remember which gelato I like the best. I want to say Funny enough in, I think the, the Salerno region, the Salerno area, Salerno area when I was there, um, pretty, pretty good stuff.
But, um, yeah, I think the, yeah, like I said, I don't think I can describe the differences of the different regions. You probably could do it better than I can. But some of the things I enjoyed were, I mean, the, the olive oil, uh, heaven, buffalo mozzarella, heaven on fresh tomato. I can actually taste the tomato.
Dude,
Marco Ciappelli: so one thing that people need to understand is that I, I wasn't there, but I was getting a lot of messages from you, a lot of [00:10:00] signals with photos. And, and, uh, and I think every, every day at lunch and dinner, you were like, ah, I just went to the Mercato. Which is the market. And I got some mozzarella and tomato and basil, and I'm like, dude, you,
Sean Martin: you could go to a fancy and gelato and then get it, but no.
I mean, you grab a tomato and a, and a and a ball of mozzarella. And
Marco Ciappelli: that was your food in Italy.
Sean Martin: Basil and olive oil. Yeah, it was my staple. Um, I tried lemon cello. I tried, uh, lemon. What is it in, where was it? It was a lemon famous lemon place in Saleno. No, it's not Serrano.
Marco Ciappelli: Sorrento?
Sean Martin: Not Sorrento. It's on the islands.
Marco Ciappelli: Oh, on the island. Okay. Like Capri?
Sean Martin: Yes.
Marco Ciappelli: There you go.
Sean Martin: Capri, yep. I stopped in Sapri as well. But um, I forget what my point was there. Yeah, the [00:11:00] lemon, the lemon sorbet, lemon gelato.
Marco Ciappelli: There you go. And now we're all stuck in the food because we do always get stuck. You get stuck. Let's go back to the train experience and then you went down.
Right. You, you, you were going closer and closer to the origin . So the thing I wanna point out with the train
Sean Martin: is, is, um, from Florence down to, uh, the, the tip of the, of the boot. I'm not trying to remember what the name of that, that town was. Uh, gen Sangio, I think, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Sangio. Um, I had a rough idea.
I knew I wanted to be in Sicily with enough time to explore my, uh, my heritage. Um, but I had no plan. So literally as I was wrapping up a day, I was figuring out where the train would take me to and I'd book [00:12:00] the accommodations for the next night or two. And so I was just kind of leading myself down. If I felt like staying three days someplace, I did.
I didn't want to be there. I, I left and off I went, um, so it was very liberating and freeing to just kind of see and explore. And I didn't feel like I didn't get to see anything and I didn't feel like I stayed too long anywhere. I just did what I want. So, um, the cool thing is, The train, actually, when you reach the end of the mainland, it reaches a dock, and you, the train boards a ferry, and
Marco Ciappelli: the ferry turns into a boat,
Sean Martin: it turns into a boat, and you cross the, you cross the strait, and off into Messina, and the train exits the ferry, and you're now on the train in, in Messina for like five minutes, and then that's it, that, that's where my train [00:13:00] journey stops, so the train system in, in the mainland is, and Pretty phenomenal, bar the, bar the strikes that happen every now and then I got caught up in a few of those, but nothing, nothing dramatic.
Marco Ciappelli: Wouldn't be Italy if you were not part of the strike.
Sean Martin: Exactly. Yeah. So I think the, uh, the, the conductors or the, yeah, the, the engineers, conductors didn't have enough espresso. So they were striking.
Marco Ciappelli: That was the reason to strike? I think that was it. That was it. I can see that.
Sean Martin: Um. So I did take a train into Palermo, and then from Palermo I got a car and I, I started to drive around.
Marco Ciappelli: What car? What car did you get?
Sean Martin: Ah, a little Fiat .
Marco Ciappelli: A little Chiquito.
Sean Martin: Chiquito? Yeah. Was it red? No, it was white. I think it was white. I have to remember. Did
Marco Ciappelli: did you drive it like a madman?
Sean Martin: You know, I had this feeling that, uh. [00:14:00] You have to mind yourself a little more in Sicily, being, being, uh, observed and, and monitored a little bit more in Sicily.
Hmm. I don't know. It's a feeling I had, feeling I had, people can correct me comment.
Marco Ciappelli: What's the movies that was that?
Sean Martin: Is that, um, so I mined my Ps and Qs and, and, uh, speed didn't drink and drive . I didn't want, I didn't wanna get caught up in anything down there. My goal was to explore, not, uh, sit in a cell.
So, um, yeah, so, where my great grandfather is from, well, I'll start with my great grandma because she's from Palermo, and Palermo's pretty big. And, so I'm there and enjoying myself, like I said, there's a festival of roses was on, which is a huge, huge deal. Big parade down the center of town, leading to the beach, [00:15:00] and a gigantic fireworks show with, with, uh, with music playing in the background.
And I met this couple. And they were super, super nice. And we connected on Instagram. So we stay in touch on Instagram. Dr. Pino. He's amazing. And his wife, or his girlfriend, I guess. His fiancée. And, um Yeah, just lovely people, a lovely time, but as I'm there, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm here for a reason. Where's my great grandmother from?
Would it be possible even to find where she lives? And the city's so big, there's not a, not a chance, but what I did. Do is go into the municipal building and I sat there for maybe Ten minutes and the guy said what do you need help? And of course, I don't speak Italian They're trying to trying to help me in English slash Italian and Eventually they said, hold on and they brought somebody else out and he brought me into [00:16:00] this room where all the records are birth and death and all of it.
Marco Ciappelli: I'm going to say, just look for it yourself.
Sean Martin: He didn't point me in the direction.
Marco Ciappelli: He said, hold on a minute. I have no time for this shit. You look for it yourself.
Sean Martin: That's right. It was very nice actually. Yeah, I wasn't certain if I was going to get helped or not, but you're, you're in this room with hundreds years old record books.
They're just all stacked up and they're all, they're all dusty and tattered and it's picture brown, brown record books. I think I may have taken a picture before they noticed I took a picture, but, uh,
Marco Ciappelli: Now you're in trouble.
Sean Martin: So he. He eventually came back and he said, what are you looking for? I told him I'd love to have a copy of the birth certificate just to understand, yeah, what, what that means, where she, who her parents were and whatnot, and date of birth, all, used to have that record.
And he [00:17:00] said, It usually takes a long time, but I'll try to expedite and he said, when you leave, and I said a couple of weeks, he says, I can't go that fast. So he, he offered to, offered to mail it. And of course, where is he going to mail that to? So. Um, you, you were kind enough to, uh, to step in and help with that, with the place.
Marco Ciappelli: What's the result of that? We still haven't got
Sean Martin: that one. I haven't seen super nice guy.
Marco Ciappelli: It took a little longer than two weeks.
Sean Martin: He was this close to committing to getting it to me in person. It's been well, well longer than two weeks at this point. Um, I'm just gonna have to go back.
Marco Ciappelli: It's the excuse to go back.
Sean Martin: It's the excuse
Marco Ciappelli: to go back, go back. Like, remember me, huh? You remember me.
What's
the matter with you?
Sean Martin: So anyway, the commitment was made. I felt pretty good and it was inspiring just even [00:18:00] having that conversation to
Marco Ciappelli: accomplish something.
Sean Martin: I, I, I did what I set out to do. The outcome wasn't exactly the final one yet, but, uh, my actions were initially were there to make it happen.
But so then the other one. I drove, where my great grandfather's from, it's in the middle of the, it's near the coast ish, maybe 45 minutes inland, but kinda in the middle of Sicily, west to east, north to south. So I drive into the town, and there's maybe, I don't know, maybe five or six hundred, probably maybe, probably less, three or four hundred houses in this little town, main street, and I thought, meh,
I'll just,
I'll find the municipal building.
I had good luck with the last one. So
Marco Ciappelli: now in a town that is, you know, Paisa, that is like 400 [00:19:00] people or even 4, 000 people, the municipal building, usually not that hard to find that in the church, not hard to find
Sean Martin: it was a few blocks, few steps from the church. In fact, I have a story about the church, but so we'll stick with this because we're talking about, uh, yeah,
Marco Ciappelli: there is a good story there.
I remember that
Sean Martin: of the church. Yeah. Of the, of the, oh, no, I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to tell that story.
Marco Ciappelli: The bar and the,
something
happened.
Sean Martin: So I, first I drive around the town, I kind of get a feel for it. I'm like, this is cool. This is where he's from. And then I, I park and I find the municipal building. I walk in and I start to interact with them and, and they're very, they're less prone to speak English there, but, but still nice enough.
Um, During the conversation though, I get in a very, very abrupt point to the wall, [00:20:00] where in Italian and in English, two roughly printed out pieces of paper say, All records have been seized by the police. Do not ask for, for records of birth certificates. And I was like, that's very strange. And I immediately think of Well, what happened here in, in Sicily, uh, that the police came and confiscated all the records.
Um, so I just, I'm standing there, I'm like, I'm all the way here. I can't just accept that. So I'm trying in, in, in my English and through the app and saying, is there no other way? And I literally answered the question, or asked the question, over and over and over. And another lady then came up and said, let me see if I can help you.
[00:21:00] And, and long story short there, she said, I will help you. And, and similar thing, I'll try to find the record and I'll mail it to you. Do you have a place? And that's where you came in as well, with your, your place there. And, and I left. And I felt good, um, but I felt weird. Like, like I was doing something wrong because I was just subverting the police confiscation of the records.
I don't know, it was strange. So I had this strange feeling. So I leave and I wasn't staying in town, I was staying outside of town.
Marco Ciappelli: Well, can I tell you something quickly?
In Italy there are the rules, but then there are ways to go around the rules. It doesn't mean you break the law. You just, you know, you just work it out. Things get sorted out. You sort it out. That's what you would say. Yeah, we'll figure it out. [00:22:00] Yeah,
Sean Martin: so
Marco Ciappelli: what happened? So don't feel bad about it.
Sean Martin: No, no, I don't.
It's very Italian. It is, but There's an inkling of this is strange
And
I didn't immediately want to go back and just hang out in the town, which was But anyway, I found my, I said, you know what, I'm here, I'm going to go back in. So I went back into town and I said, I'll just sit down, I'll have a coffee and a cornetto.
And, uh, so I went to this little bar where they serve the coffee, of course. And, uh, the owner wife, uh, serves me and then the owner husband says good morning. And, and I say, yeah. I'll just sit outside and then when I went back in I said, This is really nice, I appreciate it. Um, and he says, You're English, or American, whatever.
I said, Yeah, I'm here. My great grandfather was born. He said, What's the name? I tell him the name. He says, [00:23:00] As in, and he mentions the first name and I said, yeah, and he said, I, I've married into that family. And I was like, no way. So then he's, he's trying to call people and they're not answering, but, um, very inspiring.
So now I have this connection to the family. He's not able to reach somebody, but I felt a little better. So now I'm walking around the street and I crossed the street and there's this war memorial in the middle of town. With maybe 20 names on it, one of which is my great grandfather's. So, evidently, a well known or at least an established person in the community.
Um, and I'll quickly go to the church because then there was another moment of amazing feeling where there's only one church in the town. And clearly that's where he would go to church. [00:24:00] Right. So I'm in there just absorbing that he was, he was there as a kid. So, I go back the next day. I think, yeah, I'll go say hi again.
Have another coffee and a cornetto. And, so when I, when I walk in, they're all come in, come in, come in. And they sit down and, and they said, hold on. And they call somebody else and somebody else they call happens to be.
He runs the records department of the municipality. So he said, don't worry, I'll get your records for you. And sure enough, we never got the physical one. Those never arrived at your place. But I did receive within, before I got home back to the States, I received a copy electronically. Of those records for me,
Marco Ciappelli: which is in the lesson is [00:25:00] it's all about who, you know,
Sean Martin: who, you know, and perseverance,
Marco Ciappelli: you know, the thing that I like is this, I like to go places and not just in Italy, everywhere, you know, I like to travel, you know, that.
So maybe one day I'll share one on my story, but the fact that you took the moment and you said, well, this is. This is the piazza, this is the church, the chiesa, where my grand grandfather and his family, maybe this is where he grew up, maybe this is where he played, I don't know, kick a ball and play soccer with his friend.
That's a thing I always think about when I go in this old city, even if I am from Italy, but even if it's somewhere else, I'm like, what was life here? Yeah. A hundred years ago, 50 years ago, 200 years ago. And I think, you know, cause you see all this old stuff there and you think how many people walk on the steps, how many people, you know, [00:26:00] live the different life here.
So I love that you had that moment and you kind of, in a way you're connected with your, with your grandfather.
Sean Martin: Absolutely. Yeah. No question. It's really cool. I love it. It's really cool. Yeah, so that's uh, that's my random and unscripted story from a random and Design destination, but a random and unscripted journey.
Marco Ciappelli: Yeah, I like the ideas that you took your time You decided what how long am I gonna stay here and we'll see maybe a day more maybe less You were there in the summer. I remember it was really hot. But also that's when everything happened, right? There was like different events and concerts.
Sean Martin: Yeah, the festival in Palermo.
Yeah, lots of fun activities.
Marco Ciappelli: And that's kind of random and unscripted. That's why I wanted to, you to share this, this story because it's, you, you just went with the [00:27:00] flow there. And I think that that's created a really cool memory in, in, uh, you know, like in your mind and something that it's kind of cool to share.
And I think that's the lesson here is that people, when you go to a place, sure, you know, I, I always see people going with the bus and. Getting down, get the guide and go inside the museum and I exit the bus and I'm like, get the side street, right? I mean, like, just walk.
Sean Martin: Here's what I do. I exit the train. I find my Airbnb.
And I open up all trails. Where's the trail? So I hiked the Amalfi Coast, I hiked Los Salernos and Capri and Sapri and it was incredible. Totally unscripted. I follow a trail. If I found food along the way, that's great. If I found limoncello along the way, if I found gelato along the way. Perfect.
Marco Ciappelli: Yeah.
Sean Martin: I didn't have nearly as [00:28:00] much wine as I thought, or maybe I should have, but
I
didn't enjoy some.
But, uh, that was really, really, really fun. Yeah. Some towns had concerts and art festivals and yeah, it was pretty, pretty spectacular the whole thing.
Marco Ciappelli: Well, I think it's the, the, the, again, the moral of the story here is. This goes along with the reason why we decided to have this kind of podcast that has nothing to do with what we normally do and it's called random and unscripted and I, I felt like that trip that you did was, yeah, you had an objective, but let's face it, I think it was also an excuse to say, give me a reason, right?
Just give me one reason and I'll just go ahead and do it and I, and I love it and it's funny enough that I was in Italy a few. A few days ago, and I called you right when I was walking to the train station, uh, to go pick up my wife that she was in, in Florence and, and I was trying to tell you that. And [00:29:00] then in my mind it's like, wait a minute, Sean did this few days, a few times, and to go down.
Sean Martin: I was there for a few days. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess I could just, I could follow you or describe the road and right. And that's the forest and
Marco Ciappelli: that's so cool. Yeah, we need an excuse to go there together and we may have it, um, soon enough. Yeah, we'll chat about, uh, some info security event that is happening in Italy.
And unfortunately I wasn't there. It's in Bologna. And, uh, you know, it's, it's all about reconnecting with all those It
Sean Martin: was one in Sardinia that I, I almost tried to fit into this, into this other trip that we just talked about. Really? I couldn't get the flights organized, but there was a security event in Sardinia.
Marco Ciappelli: I didn't know about
Sean Martin: that.
Marco Ciappelli: Oh, now they're all wasp, okay. Again, we just need an excuse and we [00:30:00] definitely don't need excuses to just get together and uh, you know, uh, I'm having a cold brew coffee and uh, Maybe next time we'll do it later in the day. We have a glass of wine as we chat and I The hope is you know, i'm not answering any questions here I just hope people would enjoy this side of us that for once, it's not about thinking about the future of humanity.
Yeah, I don't share stories like this. Yeah, why not? It's about music. It's about a book that we read. It's about a movie that we saw or anything that, uh, that kind of like strike an idea for a conversation, which is what we normally do. You know, we're in a car together, we get together and what we talk about, I don't know, it doesn't have to be special and, uh, and it had, and it turned out to be special.
I mean, for me to hear the stories, I hope, uh, people enjoy it and, um, and I'm glad that you get to, to experience that and then maybe [00:31:00] one day we'll talk about. Your grandfather building pianos. You need to research a little bit more about that. I know.
Sean Martin: I need to dig it a little more.
Marco Ciappelli: That is so cool. That is just so cool.
Um, Sean.
Sean Martin: All that way back.
Marco Ciappelli: Random and unscripted.
Sean Martin: Random and unscripted. There we are. Let's uh, let's say goodbye to everybody. It's the weekend. Hopefully, hopefully everybody enjoys the weekend. And uh, stay tuned as we Randomly schedule something next. Who knows? And that'll be on traveling.
Marco Ciappelli: I know, but I like the idea that we do these on a Friday or Saturday.
So if people watch it live, they awfully spend 30 minutes with us. And if they watch it later, still something that maybe gets your head out of, uh, of work and, um, share a little adventure and maybe a little bit of fun. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get you motivated to do that trip to Italy or South America or North Europe or Asia, wherever you want to go.
Just, just go if you can, [00:32:00] you know, find the time, find the way, stay tuned, subscribe. This is a new show, so we need you to share it and we need you to kind of like, uh, let other people know about it because, uh, we enjoy doing it no matter what. But if we know that there is people that like it, uh, there is even more excitement for us to get on and keep doing it all the time.
Sean Martin: So thanks for letting me share and thanks for sharing everybody. We'll see you on the next one.
Marco Ciappelli: Bye bye. Ciao ciao.