Dive into the inspiring journey of Madhan Vadlamudi, an ASU graduate, on my podcast. Discover his keys to unlocking success as an international student.
Guest: Madhan Vadlamudi, Software Engineer III, CSAA Insurance Group [@CSAAInsuranceGp]
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Are you from India? Wishing to come to the USA for your studies? Is your dream university Arizona State University? If yes, grab a pen, paper, and water, and you are all good to know everything. From researching the dream university to getting selected and beating the elephant in the room (i.e. the VISA process) to settling up - you need to know EVERYTHING because, at the end of the day, it is a foreign land with a lot of newness, loneliness, and self-dependency.
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Unlocking success | Conversation with an ASU Graduate Madhan Vadlamudi | Off the Record with Saman — Student Abroad Podcast
16:04:01 Hi everyone, this is Simon Fatima and we are back again with another episode with Off the Record with Me Summon.
16:04:10 And we covered today a different trajectory for me. I being in the central time zone and we're covering a college and a student.
16:04:18 I'm now working professional strong. You know, the Phoenix site. So we're majorly now moving on to the mountain time as well.
16:04:27 So We'll have more discussions around and you might have known if I've mentioned Phoenix.
16:04:33 So we know what the university is and what are we going to talk about. So it's about Arizona State University and we have mother here and I'd really like to welcome him as part of ITSP, and I'd really like to welcome him as part of ITSP Magazine podcast and I let him introduce himself about What he did, where is he, where did he came from and all of those details.
16:04:55 So quite a budget.
16:04:55 Hey, someone. Firstly, thanks for, well coming into the. Off the record with someone podcast.
16:05:01 It's really due for a while, right? I mean, we're in talks for the most of external.
16:05:06 And it's happening. Yeah.
16:05:06 Yeah, that's why the mention that we are in different time zone. So guys, it is it is difficult to get hold of the time zones.
16:05:15 Yeah, yeah, completely negative point. Yeah. Yeah, to start with, this is mother, MADAM, MUDDY, I'm just getting from South of India, like Nilu, to be princess, I have to be more specific.
16:05:31 People might be knowing. I's through rocket launching setup star. So I'm this right next to it.
16:05:37 I can see it's flying quite often. Yeah, I did my batches back in 2016.
16:05:43 For a moment in Mr. Bangalore and then. I was with a couple of companies back in India.
16:05:48 I worked with a start-up and, and, Mobile Networks. For like 6 months time and then.
16:05:52 Start working at the time and try to capture me or back in 2017. 17. Yeah, I was there for our own for the first time and then Back in 2021, I'm going to use, to person my master's in law.
16:06:06 Other than a state university, and my major is in information technology and project management. Focus at 82 data andics and entrepreneurs.
16:06:17 So it's Pretty much. Be background about me. I'm currently working with the Steve's double incidents grow.
16:06:25 It's automobile incidents company. Working it says after run up 3. Yeah, that's what I'm as of now.
16:06:36 Yes.
16:06:33 Thank you so much and that's a really like a fun introduction to know like the roots and that that's really like I wasn't also aware that you're so near to that isrow rocket center where you could see a lot of things live.
16:06:50 So that's something you know I also got to know along with the other folks who are watching you right now.
16:06:55 So you know we don't have to you know, like we know a lot of things about Arizona State University.
16:07:02 We know it's like at the deserted place and a lot of other things. We would get down to the weather and how things you managed up there but before we head down to those questions we'd like to know more about what was your course and how was the curriculum and how were you able to shoot it down that okay this is the one course and this is the college that I wanted to go for.
16:07:27 My muscles.
16:07:28 Okay, so is a bit of background for that. It was, it started back in 2016 only.
16:07:34 So now for my, I'm thought of coming to you to do my masters and even that I'm.
16:07:39 One of the top producers. In my parental list concerning my background and kind of weather, it is here like it's little hot here but I'll come to the point but yeah so especially with the kind of innovation stuff they do and the curriculum they have job opportunities in the.
16:07:59 And like there's some multiple factors involved here, so which I choose. And so, as my option and, Yeah, so To be precise, it talks at the back in 69.
16:08:11 Even in 21, only one to 2%, there are a couple of things. 2016, 21 things change.
16:08:20 I got married in between 2020. So yeah, this is this is an interesting topic which you know and yeah so me and my wife wanted to do master's together like in 2020 we got married and then started away planned to do masters in 21.
16:08:35 August, she carries her own voice of experience and We are more or less safe. With provisional experience.
16:08:43 So I think yes, we have to get to the same university. It's a planned one. It's a calculated risk, I would say.
16:08:49 We are, to similar, but, we have, we have mining that we have to get into, Get on this, into a good reputation.
16:08:58 And, has this, advantage actually. So they have multiple focus areas. Even we can opt courses from Inter-discipline like multiple.
16:09:08 So it's not just sticking to even though my, same is IT infamous technology and project management.
16:09:14 I can up courses from software and you're doing your comparison. So, It caught the flexibility.
16:09:19 So that's 1 of the major aspects. I'll prefer you and yeah, oh thanks for and then we are Okay, we apply to our 5 nurses and then likely we got admits to all the images and this was my popularity concerning the fact is like a lot of friends over here who came here before and then they've sent down here they're working here.
16:09:41 Oh, they started here. So it's kind of, it's both right for me because I know people already here.
16:09:47 So. That helped me a bit actually. So that was one of the One of the reasons I, I opted to, and, yeah.
16:09:55 That's about how I, what's that is in my hand why I'm choosing a
16:10:00 That's a fair or decision to make and just So that everyone knows you're like you did.
16:10:18 Oh.
16:10:08 Masters course in project management and the concentration was like more concentration was on data analytics. So do we consider that it was a mixture of, you know, the analytic subjects and project management as well?
16:10:22 It is actually information technology and project management. It's it's a mix of yeah, it's a mix of both data and it's and project management.
16:10:32 So we have to have like we have to finish that the rates to get your master's degree here and then There will be 3 focus.
16:10:39 Like core courses like you can say. 3 line rates you have to do a mandatory courses which are into both management and project management and ID.
16:10:49 And there will be you'll be left with 7 courses where you can choose from electives and even interdisciplinary also.
16:10:59 So yeah, you have that flexibility. Yeah, out of 7, I took 4 from my focus area, which is data like so.
16:11:05 Thus does advantage in that case.
16:11:06 Okay. That's great. And do we have this course only in fall or? Does it only starts in summer or does it only starts at spring or winter?
16:11:18 Like does it start like multiple times or there is just one clear thing that okay this course only starts in fall or only in summers is it something
16:11:27 Oh Hello, I mean, it's, it's, like both foreign brings a mistress. So it's open here.
16:11:36 Okay.
16:11:34 Not in the summer though. So you have, Oh, another it's, it's stood up between you.
16:11:42 Want to come in spring or fall, right? Like, so, I'll have, I'll have his advantage on spring has it or I don't digest.
16:11:50 Like, if you want to, I'm be eligible for, like internships and only of it's better to come in false semester so that.
16:11:55 That's it. You, you have that rule of 9 months. You have to be in this land to.
16:12:00 Land and opportunity like to start working probably a send in a like some other way. So, that's 1 way, but it's open for both us.
16:12:10 SPEAKER. But people prefer coming in, fall, I would say. So, because So we have more opportunities, right?
16:12:17 So the more number of coaches will be available. Yeah.
16:12:14 Yeah. I am. Yeah, and you did come up in the fall semester as well.
16:12:22 Yeah, so it started in back, fall, 21 August and then I've dropped up in 22 December.
16:12:28 Okay, so it's like an 18 months course roughly.
16:12:33 No, actually it's 2 years, but you can, as long as you can wrap up your traits, you're good to go.
16:12:38 Oh, okay, that's nice.
16:12:38 So it's about, So, but, yeah, I've seen the girl actually.
16:12:44 I mean, she's the rest of the gang. She has completed it in now. One months after, like she did, fall, spring, and then by so much she brought up.
16:12:52 I never know that. But. That's good way to end it because she got an opportunity to.
16:12:58 And she has to start. Potential so she she took I think she took 4 coaches in summer. That was crazy, I would say.
16:13:07 But yeah, that was one exceptional case. But I suggest people going for maybe one and a year or probably for the next 2 years.
16:13:12 I agree because, I took like, Actually, I took also 4 subject every semester, but it was like divided into mini masters.
16:13:24 So like 1 min, mister 2 then another minute, mister 2, but in total it was 4.
16:13:29 So yeah, can't take 4 together like it's more of a pain. I know, right, I.
16:13:33 It'll be hectic actually. I mean, so there might be, yeah, there might be a scenario you have to take for because so consider the case where, you have an opportunity waiting for your probably full time opportunity that you have to start in January and you are left with 4 coaches.
16:13:48 People Do take the chance, but it's others are visible to planet before. No, not in the flag in.
16:13:53 Yeah, we're like killing yourself with full subject. I am just imagining it. No, I can't.
16:14:01 I can't get those subjects.
16:14:01 Well, I' you in fun. Spring that's fine but summer. It'll be too crazy because most of them it will be remote courses.
16:14:08 Oh, no, it's still enough. I know. Yeah.
16:14:06 Yeah. And when you're all mostly on the words that you're almost completing it and then you take 4 courses, like on the words that you're almost completing it and then you take 4 courses, it's like, Yeah.
16:14:18 You'll be, yeah, you'll be here. All right, I would say because you have to have some projects going on and back and then sorry.
16:14:29 Yeah.
16:14:26 I have the pleasure of completing 4 kids. I have to have proper boot crates, right? I can't just do it randomly.
16:14:33 Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's very hectic. So you mentioned in the starting that you always had plans to come to the United States for your masters.
16:14:43 But we just wanted to know like you know there are other countries as well that we see a lot of students go to like Canada or UK or you know more towards the Europe side.
16:14:55 So just wanted to know like how what was your criteria to choose US over the other countries obviously you told us why you chose ASU but why was it more of us?
16:15:06 No, to starting with pretty plain symbol like land of opportunities. So you have the back of your mind, right?
16:15:14 I mean, even though people will give multiple options, the first one the purpose would be land of opportunities the kind of.
16:15:20 Thanks to Gibraltar here. And, and so even now I've met list of 4 or 5 other opportunities of like Canada Austin.
16:15:29 I have come at them and another it's a set of between what you get right especially if you I mean USF even after your masters, you get some, time to work, where you get some tactical experience, or whatever, whatever, like you have to have some.
16:15:45 Somebody works for your efforts, right? So that's what. But there is another contest, even have explored opportunity with Canada and, still, to some, and, and also they don't have this.
16:15:55 Flexible, I believe. So, You'll get that 6 months in U.S.A, like one plus 2 years, but.
16:16:01 There I would say 2 years and a lot of restrictions on also. The number of companies plays a big road, right?
16:16:08 I mean, you have to have a good number of opportunities waiting for you. So. Yeah, oh, that's
16:16:11 That's a great fact. Yeah, that's what I have heard like offline and during the podcast as well with a lot of my guests that Apart from all the countries like US has majority options in terms of the courses as well as compared to other like countries.
16:16:28 That's what I saw it for myself as well and you know you know you have a lot of options like you have a good plan to choose from okay I wanna do this and then I'll have many options but not every country has a lot of option but not every country has a lot of option in terms of colleges or universities or Okay.
16:16:44 That's a fair point there. And, Considering the point of ASU, we know like the course that we did.
16:16:54 So we wanted to know more about like were there any scholarships that you were granted or were there any scholarships that you applied on your end or like any thing that you researched and would like to talk about it.
16:17:08 Yeah, I have to be honest with you. A is a little expensive. That's known fact out there.
16:17:15 It will cost you around $69 now, 1,601, so 6 1 6 00 0.
16:17:20 So. No, it is a lot. When I joined, it was around 1,400 something somewhere there, but it's.
16:17:25 It's like, but another way. It might have said if you're going for expensive, it's not just expensive, the kind of bandwidth.
16:17:34 It gives you right so the kind of element it has the kind of opportunities it If you have good, let me, you have a good chance that.
16:17:44 You might be getting some better opportunities compared to your pace like. Probably I would I spent around like, me and my wife spent around down.
16:17:52 50 KELLY. Maybe you can offer some like Less expensive universities, but.
16:18:03 When I compare that, the trade-off was. Maybe $10,000 extra, but you get This like, maybe the alumni or like part time opportunities are.
16:18:16 Or maybe if it's a
16:18:19 Climate is one of the main important things. Even though it is Amazon is hard but that is also a major factor.
16:18:25 And You have to know people over here, right? So that is also one of a few factors. I have a list actually.
16:18:40 Thank you.
16:18:30 I might actually like. Techmarks, if this is matching me, I'm going. It's not just plain, but I came to use if you, I have my, options and, That's all well with me. So that was one of the reason.
16:18:43 But yeah, coming to scholarships, Is little Miser on the Oh yeah, they don't have, one, major one, scholars, university scholarship I guess.
16:18:57 So If you have a GPO, a, 9, back in India. You get that around $6,000, scholarship per semester if I'm not.
16:19:06 And I can share with the link. I have it, handy. Or maybe I can share it.
16:19:10 Maybe we can, add it to you later. But yeah, even apart from that, if you, so Do you, other side?
16:19:18 I mean like. Some people live in without having 9 GP also. Had people getting scholarships like concerned in their background or probably say they have good experience for different experience you would say like multiple times.
16:19:30 It's not just one. They look into multiple aspects and. Then they give scholarships and even once you land here also.
16:19:37 Do you get a, Getting their whole, Additionally, you'll be paid for, you're, as a partner, but your portions, right?
16:19:50 So, Bye for example, it's my cousin itself like, HAD, a, I think, last, you got, our, I think, last, for, for, 2223, actually.
16:20:01 Oh, and yes, I'm sure she's got rid of and she got, stipend of, Paravat 30 to the, I mean like a pattern.
16:20:09 Pop and feel or other, money you would say, but. It was a crazy thing, right?
16:20:14 I mean. In this case, half of your fees is gone. And, That's that will happen even after come here also.
16:20:23 So if you do value in academics, you, apply for scholarships. There's, there's also the outside chance, right?
16:20:29 So. Yeah, they don't have it. But yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, go.
16:20:30 Okay. They don't give it, sorry, they don't give anything by default like international students.
16:20:38 Not by default, by default you might get a new American scholarship. So if you have 6 GPS or around.
16:20:46 Oh, 9 GP, I'm sorry. So 9 and a, but, without that, I don't.
16:20:58 Okay.
16:20:51 Let me think. There is anything. But once you land here, you have the opportunity. Maybe you can try, the other is like sharing a GP and, these days people are fighting actually to, have, there are 3 things, TA, AREA and GREATER.
16:21:10 So people just I've seen people, in keeping, even greater portion of the TEA on audio, like there's a lot of difference between 3 portions, right?
16:21:18 So these just people are asking you and for creative portions also to. You. Scholarship are like freeway of the time to get it so.
16:21:27 You have the option, you know, once we come here, but. Default, probably new American scholarship.
16:21:33 So he's the only thing I believe. But yeah. There would be new opportunities coming up.
16:21:39 So maybe you can check. I'll drop you the link.
16:21:42 Sure, yeah, that would be helpful. We'll have everything linked. Like below the video as well.
16:21:49 But one more question on the scholarship before we move on to the next section is do we have like certain provisions that okay if you get like a certain GPA in your First semester, you get something in your for the semester or you get like certain wave of anything of that.
16:22:05 That kind of a provision if ASU.
16:22:07 Oh. Not really sure but But they're not plans actually. By the time I was graduating, they were discussions happening about this like people who have better GPA like 4 or 4 and I, like, they should be getting some kind of, what do you say?
16:22:25 Benefit like some kind of scholarship some kind of I do some things, will help them.
16:22:32 Even I know that. You will get probably $2,000, some some kind of benefit with it. If you have more than 4 GPA but I gotten at my last, but yeah, but you have to explore on those opportunities, but.
16:22:44 But yeah, so that's only.
16:22:48 Okay, thank you. That's really helpful for anyone actually coming up to issue so that they can get their head straight that you know you'd not get a lot of support.
16:22:58 If you like we are all falling into the series where not everyone has that 9 GPA back in India.
16:23:07 So you know you have to prep up better if you're coming to ASU. So that's a fair point.
16:23:13 And next is, can you talk about and in like elaborate the process that you went through with ASU with the other selection process starting from filling up the application and what all they needed as part of your application and how things went by if there were any interviews.
16:23:29 Or any video submissions, anything like how was it.
16:23:32 Oh, it's pretty straightforward, but for other news. I don't know, there are some video interests and all used to be there, but I'll talk more about it.
16:23:43 So, the thing is, so I apply. I mean, I connected with the, I don't the consultancy.
16:23:51 He's kind of mentor to me. I still talk to him quite a often. His name is Arn.
16:23:55 He's from, Bangler actually. He's, he has a LLC.
16:24:00 It's called editors. People might know it already. He's quite famous back in. So, I connected with, like.
16:24:06 Oh, for the documentation, but not for other things. Kind of mix our maybe, SOPs, and Lewis, I have it handy, but, so how to proceed on all, we have very little.
16:24:19 Confused are maybe in kind of doubtful. And so since it's just not one, it's 2.
16:24:25 Like me and my wife has to be doing it together. Right. So document support will have to him and then he took care of applications.
16:24:31 We per the rest of this we have we defined our rest office trying to learn anyone We got our alerts so we have our experience certificates everything handy.
16:24:41 So it's a supper 2 ways. Even application was done by our company. So I think so these guys backening up most of the People are Going to consultancy and after it'll reach to Kaplan if I'm not wrong.
16:24:55 So there's this one big entity in known as Kaplan. Kaplan will come to it is on the Nodel.
16:25:02 Application. So this is a different process but I got to know it back then only but yeah so Welcome to Yasu if they are from consultancy, probably it might be through Kaplan.
16:25:13 So that's 1 way. And, yeah, so. Yeah, that's, from, application purpose, like you have to upload your, dogs.
16:25:23 You have to do something like some, So, so yeah, and then you have Secretary, look at on the, let me, one month time for, to get the, confirmation.
16:25:37 I think, we applied, by end of on rehead that month of April, I guess.
16:25:45 Yeah, we have enough time to prepare for, visa entries also. So we got it.
16:25:49 So by, Hey, probably got to know. We've got a guess and then we proceed for the next steps.
16:25:54 And even while applying for I don't care. You get your admit. You will have to go for 8 20, right?
16:26:01 So that's where you have to show your funds and all. So, so that's also one aspect actually.
16:26:06 So, you know, one of the questions you, you should, you posted me, right? So it was there.
16:26:10 So for right on this, people show money in the bank accounts. You can do in the other way like if you have good relationship with one of your banker, right?
16:26:20 You can for a They'll probably uploaded upload, loan approval letter. So that is not.
16:26:27 Don't charge everything for that for sure. Because I've went through that process. Get the document, probably some thought he likes, or you know, something.
16:26:36 Show it for your eye 20. So, like, study will get you.
16:26:40 Okay, so going back into the process, how many LOars, were asked from the university.
16:26:48 I think it's 3. Yeah. So most of most of the, is asked for 3, but yeah, so it's awesome for 3, I guess.
16:26:55 Yeah.
16:26:55 Okay, and any test scores that they expected for you to upload along with the application?
16:27:00 Yes, yes, it is quite a few, at least one English provisions, Tafela, Diolingo.
16:27:10 So we, I have ailes and building also. Okay, so on some point, 5, we work with some point of similar scores.
16:27:17 Okay.
16:27:18 And, Geri, was waved up for that because, it's COVID period time and, Jared was made up but now they're asking.
16:27:33 Thank you.
16:27:26 And you would require I think more than. 300? I think 3 10. Like based on your profile, if you have experience, they work with 300, but if you don't have experience background, probably the last month 3 time, then you are good to.
16:27:39 Okay.
16:27:39 And yeah, Scots scores matter a lot.
16:27:42 So just to, you know, already collect everything. So you had to submit 3 aloha as one is soapy one English proficiency test and that's all that was needed as part of the application.
16:27:54 It depends on the you major if you are opting for CS, they for sure will ask GR.
16:27:59 So you have to have your J.
16:27:59 Okay, okay, got it. And there was nothing like essays or anything that was,
16:28:04 Oh no, it's called.
16:28:07 Okay, got it. So do you like as part of that? So you get like separate questions as well then that you have.
16:28:13 No, you have to tune it, right? I mean, like, So you have to do it.
16:28:16 Okay, add twist. Okay, got it.
16:28:18 I mean, they may not ask you, but you have to show. So is where the place you boast yourself, right?
16:28:24 I have done this one. That's the thing. So It is better whether they ask you, but you have to showcase no.
16:28:29 Yeah, because, when I was filling up my application, for my university, so they asked me SOP, LOR, the same test scores and everything, but they also gave us couple of questions that we had to send out recording us, like a video record for us and then answering those questions and they were basically like live questions and you had to answer it and send them back.
16:28:51 That, that was there for rather, you know, Si. I believe it's for the unist of Cincinnati.
16:28:57 And I think, I know they asked for. Like video recording and even Not Eastern, you know, you also, ask me.
16:29:03 Yeah, okay, so this was more of like you submitted everything and We are now heading into the section where you know we talk more about the visa experience and how was it for you.
16:29:19 Considering you got your admit in April and you had to join it in August so how was your experience back in 2021 with the appointments and the interview and how was that field.
16:29:31 So the primary reason why I connected with Arn, I mean, already because Adriest, I mean, IA, because of his stock, you know, because of, like we scientists.
16:29:43 Trust me, I've seen people who got rejected like 4 or 5 times or maybe 10 times on so.
16:29:49 It'll make sure you get it right, you get to miss up for sure. It's not about, I'm not boasting about him.
16:29:56 It's kind of rigorous visa process actually. He'll try new as if you're going for some SD 3 portion.
16:30:03 That's hard. Oh, make him satisfied. There are 9, no, not, 100% chance that you're gonna get your.
16:30:11 Oh, he'll, he'll kind of start. So, but yeah, so, so after when I got to admits, But, site founder was I have to get, get my attorney.
16:30:20 And then, no, as you mentioned, there were no Lisa lots available that's peak COVID type.
16:30:27 That's actually, Probably made 21. We got our rabbits in 2021.
16:30:32 April, May, 2021 was the second real peak time up for India. That was the worst period.
16:30:42 It's not COVID one was not. But it was not that bad COVID to everyone was it like people neglected and then things became worse, right?
16:30:50 So There were time we thought of is it going to work this time. So we added our doubts. I'll be honest with you.
16:30:58 So Because it was such bad we're not getting appointments and suggestions very bad outside you can't go out anywhere like Sometimes you have to get done, right?
16:31:07 So then. Yeah, luckily, I think. One day I think June, fourth somewhere I remember.
16:31:15 Regard, heads up from USS or I think that they're going to not use, I mean, the immigration.
16:31:24 But it's, open slots. So for the visa appointments and then it was a struggle whole day, they're sitting, the side is getting class big time.
16:31:38 Yeah, luckily we got our like appointments scheduled for July first until a second. My name was in July first and I'm I saw some jealousy.
16:31:48 That's a different list. I got it in China. She wasn't happy. At least we got it.
16:31:52 So we got the remit and then. That all one month our rooms are literally made a style hard.
16:32:00 I'm very pleased to have at least. They'll be like, you know, you might be watching KVC.
16:32:05 Yeah.
16:32:06 It'll be like that. We will be segregate into groups like 700 guys people will grill you like anything You know, this officer not, I mean, his wildest of drink, he dreams might expect these questions to you.
16:32:21 So these guys will ask, You know.
16:32:22 Hello, probably your prep would be very grilling, but your main interview would have been easier.
16:32:30 That's nothing in mainland, because all the questions were. It's my heart for me.
16:32:38 It was, I mean, like, the should be there, but. It's far, far ahead of.
16:32:46 What expecting in real in, so that's how it went even if someone is in like the thinking to about for applying or maybe they have issues with these restrictions, right?
16:32:58 I suggest them going for, because he guided in such a way. So it was very good and even in every probably once in a week, I ping in my asking like students work here we are like me and my wife.
16:33:11 What is it? Poplars room someone. You like. Exceptional case. We never sent a couple here.
16:33:14 Yeah.
16:33:21 Right now it is someone have a difference in it. That is one different case, also one person. I think he's 55, he's 1. Okay.
16:33:30 He came to Masters. Not to ASU, the same bachelor. That's 21.
16:33:35 It's name is Sampath. I still, I'm a. I think he's doing his, PH.
16:33:37 Hey, imagine a guy who is at 55 and doing masters. That's like seriously.
16:33:42 Yeah, so easy.
16:33:43 Yeah, you, he, it's, a, like, You've got to expect from Sanskrit.
16:33:46 Yeah, and like if we know if we may know like what were the questions specifically, targeted on, on your main visa day interview.
16:33:54 Yeah, so, it's more generally, about, and why a U.S.A, I mean, first main question they asked me.
16:34:10 And then, they're asking about my curriculum, like what? Goes just the object.
16:34:13 I opted in my first. Because you have to have register for your courses. So like you won't get.
16:34:16 Course, kind of a I literally for the courses. So. You have to know which courses are you opting for your first semester or you plan for a second and third.
16:34:29 You have to have that. You're gonna you're gonna pay $50,000. You have to have a plan ready for that.
16:34:34 So they ask me about my costs. That's all I'm asking you in a couple of questions about my.
16:34:39 Professional experience, like which company I'm working and how long. Pretty, not many out-of-box coachions out of box coaches were already explored by my head guys.
16:34:51 So. Yeah, it's pretty straightforward.
16:34:54 Okay. And, so after that, like, How was your like, travel plan?
16:35:04 Like, you started, what date like what date was your on boarding day at ASU and then If you could just let us know how was when you landed.
16:35:13 In Phoenix and how were things, how did you manage up the location and everything else like how did the first couple of weeks went by.
16:35:23 Yeah, so couple of weeks. Make that point. Okay. So that is one of the main aspect actually.
16:35:29 So people who are coming to U.S.A, I'll suggest them to come at least couple of weeks ahead of here.
16:35:35 Glass starts. So, so once you land here, like, I plan it, we plan it actually.
16:35:43 So my joining my first day of classes, on August, the nineteenth and we landed here on August fourth.
16:35:49 I have my, ready for me because I have people over here. Like my friends were here so they already just a good place for me and it's on there and, So it was, it was all available for me.
16:36:03 August 4 I landed, stayed away when I came out. It's around 1. 1 10 degrees.
16:36:11 It's around the Amazon, it's money loads and I was like I'm in a different planet.
16:36:19 I'll forget that because back in the day we don't see sun after 6 pm, right?
16:36:22 8 pm here and it's still Right, Sunny. I mean, it's pretty hot.
16:36:27 So yeah. I still can't forget those days actually, but yeah. So coming also, you have a plan. I mean, not suddenly.
16:36:36 I mean, I will, I would say plan at least to come here, but it is 2 weeks before your classes, right?
16:36:40 You to get your bank accounts over and you have you possibly have to get your driving license or maybe.
16:36:46 If you come before you have a chance of getting patents also like you can go and expert talk to people there some people might expect you to come in person and do the interview not.
16:36:56 What is bottom? And here they have lot of opportunities back then, but now. Since crowd got interest.
16:37:07 It's it'll be tough now but yeah if you plan it well you get it. We caught our partners even back in India only so.
16:37:17 Okay.
16:37:12 We plan it so we both apply to a lot of KCU, Oh, we got to, so got some job.
16:37:21 I mean, I work with it. Print and imaging lobster because a purchase is That's good.
16:37:25 Okay. That's good. Like that's a note for everyone that if you plan it way ahead of time, you email the different departments and see what are the open roles and check it through the site.
16:37:40 That would be a great help that you don't have to invest that much time, you email the different departments and see what are the open roles and check it through the site.
16:37:43 That would be a great help that you can email the different departments and see what are the open roles and check it through the site.
16:37:45 That would be a great help that you don't have to invest that much time when you come here and probably invest more time on your settlements and other things because obviously it's a culture when you come from a different country to US.
16:37:49 So that's a good point. And considering that you are now graduated, you are done with the course.
16:37:56 And it's like in year as well that it's been close to an year that you're all done with that.
16:38:01 1616 months.
16:38:03 So. Okay, 16 months to be precise. So how was your job search after your course got completed and How do you wanna comment on that one and how is your university like was there any role of ASU into that as well?
16:38:24 Oh, so yes, you does have some job fits, happening quite often. At least. A couple of them, person.
16:38:33 Mr. But yeah see and love the way it's your profile that light us so Oh, money.
16:38:41 Job phase happens in university if your profile is not that good. Are your, skills is not up to the market area?
16:38:50 Is there a, is not up to the market? That's a very high chances that you may not end up anywhere, right?
16:38:53 So you have to refine yourself. Do you need isn't good and then not have to apply.
16:38:58 So yes, use, part in jobs is for my. And I actually because as I mentioned, alumni place good world like.
16:39:07 You know. Once you've graduated or even when you're working if you go. Trying to operate for some butler company.
16:39:15 You see hundreds of people already working in there from university. Started to go hit. Bug one person and it's a bug.
16:39:23 Yeah, it's a bad word. Yeah, any one person. I'm there more than half as soon as I see.
16:39:28 Yeah. I'm almost at this Sunday. So, so. So you say, hey Sandel, they're more than happy to say.
16:39:36 Help you to the court so yeah that had me I mentioned a lot of people actually so they gave me reference Definitely is never equal to a job opportunity, but it gives a step, right?
16:39:49 At least first step, you, you can go ahead and start working on that thing. So yeah. And also, there is 1, one thing which, I'm.
16:39:58 So. It's not just coming here and then doing partners like I suggest people Start when you land here.
16:40:04 Patents are okay, try to concentrate more relationships. That's where I made a mistake. So,
16:40:10 As well as I got my partner, I just, I, I didn't forget, but I left that part of internships, applying for this.
16:40:18 Had I upgrade probably in the month of August only. Because they start playing as soon as possible. It's first come first, I've been using, right?
16:40:27 So it's not, they won't wait for it. Best standard. If you fit into their rules, you're good to go.
16:40:28 So I wasted around 3 4 months, I believe, August, September, but I think I started around.
16:40:33 Number red for applying initiatives rather than last lot of them got to run that are very few by the time also.
16:40:39 So, yeah, even though I applied a lot in spring, I hardly got calls. There are multiple issues for that.
16:40:47 Probably my addressing was not a too much. I didn't kill my reason. So I was not little, to be honest with you.
16:40:52 So. So, but yeah, but there is a backup plan for me. So I know if I don't get in it.
16:41:01 So I know if I don't get a super test we bought God didn't get interested we both got didn't get interested, I guess we both got didn't get interested.
16:41:05 We wanted to complete at least one code in somewhere so that will you be getting only 3 in final semester so that we can wrap up?
16:41:09 We have our plan, set already. Like we're undergraduate, but it's about What's at that situation?
16:41:15 So. Oh, we graduated. Just stuff period, 22 December. As the I would say was that.
16:41:25 Okay, any point of, what is it this layoffs? I don't say it's a, it's not a, to be honest.
16:41:31 That is complete shutdown, but it's not relevant because banking. It's in good space.
16:41:36 Remind all setters are there's except ID. So. So, there are even automobile or may be critical.
16:41:45 They're good, they're getting good jobs, but only in 90 sector you are facing some issues.
16:41:50 Yeah.
16:41:49 There are multiple places maybe companies. I mean, I don't want to comment on them because everyone has their own things, right?
16:41:56 So, but yeah, we do. We're taking 22, similar. And then. I don't say struggle. We have our plan set.
16:42:01 Okay, I have some strategy. I had my strategies set already. So I used to change them quite often.
16:42:08 Yet as many interest as possible. Yeah, I got one offer in it. We were to be honest with you, we are writing, Good people are getting fired.
16:42:20 We are trying for jobs. So, John and we both, got offers, but 9 went on to her, but she got a job.
16:42:29 So it's fine and, even, for the time, so, upgrade.
16:42:33 Yeah, there was some strategies I followed. So. That.
16:42:36 I guess the time was bad since. 2022 because I came in the fall of 2022 and that's when I was applying for my.
16:42:45 Yeah. And it was really a struggling time. I got it in summer and not in spring. So, I agree to that point.
16:42:54 It was bad back then. Like, 2022, 2023 was worse as well. But what we see right now is on a different trajectory altogether like.
16:43:04 Everyone has their own strategies. I had my own and you know it just used to be adaptive with every change.
16:43:12 I had my own and you know it just used to be adaptive with every change but still somehow this time is not passing by like you know you still are not getting to that point where we see okay there are a lot of positions people are now getting jobs.
16:43:20 But still we're on to that point that there's still a freeze, there's not much intake in any organizations and There's some of the other layoffs happening here on there.
16:43:32 So We're still into that phase that we're still declining only because I see a lot of my juniors a lot of folks that reach out to me on Lincoln and probably you as well.
16:43:43 And everyone struggling like What so ever the tricks are someone not working and 2022 was just like the start of it that you know the recession started and we all were into that shell mode.
16:43:57 So, but it's luckily good for both of you that you people got the jobs more or less like closer to each other but at least you're into that.
16:44:06 That you got it but you know the times were really bad I agree to that point because I would it as well.
16:44:12 Yeah, so, like. People who graduate along between 22 December to be honest with you like some folks are still searching for jobs.
16:44:21 I know. People are in that face. But if you got, but yeah, even who got jobs, got laid off.
16:44:29 The biggest problem is like happen with Amazon. Mikas A. SU from Amazon takes a lot of time.
16:44:37 SEO on northeast university, there's certain They get jobs from Amazon pretty easy, right? Back in 2122, a lot of people joined and they got laid off in 23.
16:44:49 So they are also into the pool. They are also into the market. They have good experience compared to.
16:44:54 I mean, me or maybe some kind of pressure who into. We want to know, right? So my job.
16:45:00 First off but and also like, someone if someone said that they're not able to get.
16:45:07 Jobs, so they're not able to get more interest. It's it's more. What's, their approach actually if I talk about, see, I see people spending a lot of time on LinkedIn.
16:45:18 There is a funny thing, right. Some some kind of random recorder might say. Keep like type interested in my chart box in a comment section you're gonna get something out of you how's that even possible?
16:45:32 So people are feeling, I mean I could say hundreds of comments on that. I mean. Interested just doesn't give you a job.
16:45:39 Pretty basic things, right? You have to go and apply some random. I don't, you, this profile is not at all even completed, but clearly so.
16:45:47 I don't. I mean. Maybe hard hardboard I would say I don't apply from Lincoln.
16:45:54 19 is. I would say around 70 to 80% jobs are linked in a fake. They're not at all existing to be honest with you.
16:46:00 Most of them were supposed to be consultances too. Lote people need to make customers. So. What I do?
16:46:07 Well, like my strategies was to apply from Glasgow. So Glasgow has You can update from that.
16:46:13 I even I send just to my genius, also like apply from there it's because the number of jobs are very less than, but their genuine job.
16:46:20 Do you need a reason? Apply for it. I got a lot of calls from Glasgow.
16:46:24 It's a place. So that helped me a lot. That was my strategy actually. Even I have made.
16:46:28 List of. Domines that I need to apply banking, insurance, healthcare, automobile.
16:46:34 So each domain I used to set top top and come this in this domain and then I used to update them.
16:46:42 I'll be I didn't even apply maybe 1015 per day. So the max probably that's it.
16:46:47 I'm off application. So that rate is by cult of applications drastically, which way I can spend a little more time on tuning application.
16:46:55 People say I've applied to 2 dozen jobs, 3 dozen jobs. Well, where did you apply?
16:47:01 You know, please job. That's not, that's not, that's not, that's part of your whole plan.
16:47:05 You won't end up with anything if you do that. So. A real job applications will be in a different way altogether.
16:47:09 Yeah, that's correct. And, I have also seen people, you know, leaning towards a lot towards LinkedIn, but you know, there are a lot of other platforms as well that you should explore probably, you know.
16:47:22 Also going through the main websites off like the career sites of all the organizations and directly go there get a reference or probably apply from there directly and you know then touch base with who is the recruiter from the same organization on LinkedIn, probably, but just not one source, like making Lincoln as the one source.
16:47:42 I'll tell you how, what was the, what was so happens actually. I had my domains listed.
16:47:51 So 7 days a week. One day one domain. Take the company. Chakatis, I only have probably one or 2 jobs in each care space.
16:47:59 So. If you go through, Gaza, right, you hardly see probably one or 2, to the max. You won't see beyond that.
16:48:05 Okay. That company. Brought the company name in the. Check out people that.
16:48:13 Like. Try to reach your recruiters or maybe your army. Using England for connections, not for applications.
16:48:21 Use, I mean, like if you want to play, apply to Glasgow or some other ways.
16:48:25 I mean, even carry space. So that one is with, or is that it guide you to? Get a special.
16:48:33 There are a few, upload with something is there, but most of them will, land up Q 2 can be so that if the push is counter that's still we're gonna do but where us is whereas in case of England right anyone can you or me also can post a job that you don't have anything so That's what's happening.
16:48:50 So it's just, People are literally raising time actually other times so that which is not good. People are not able to catch that point here.
16:48:56 So they're gonna
16:48:56 Yeah, and just. Do it like mention the point, you know, I guess the same strategies would have worked years back.
16:49:05 But now the times are different. Now the pool has increased like there are a lot of folks who are unemployed and then every year the fresh graduates are adding up to that food.
16:49:18 You need to you know get out you know in a more organic way like carrier side or maybe in person cardio affairs or you know through reference or through some summits like local meetups that you attend and then you touch base with folks.
16:49:35 Anything but just not sticking to one platform that may have worked before but now it's I don't think so would work.
16:49:42 Yeah, complete. So, We'll be overing every time you have to change. You have to come up with a new one.
16:49:52 If one is working for you, may not work for the other person, but yeah, you have to build on, your phone ideas, right?
16:49:55 So, and that's the presence. Third process.
16:50:11 Yeah.
16:50:00 Yes, I agree. That's it. That depends on every person to person. There are people for whom like a particular strategy, strategy works up but for others that doesn't work up, but for others that doesn't work up.
16:50:17 May not talk for the 2.
16:50:15 So if it's very unique to everyone. So what works for me? Yeah, so but yeah, that's the only thing that you can just know what is everyone doing and then reduce how things work up for you.
16:50:26 So that's that. So that's a fair point there as well. And Just a very fun scenario that I wanted to ask you.
16:50:32 To the time when you came here for your masters that one situation like let's just limit to one situation each that Whatever you thought back from India that, okay, this thing would really be a mess for me and let's just, you know, work for it, but it went like a cake walk.
16:50:52 And one thing that you thought would be a cake walk or that I would easily do it, but there was some big mess up here when you came up like something like which opposite to each other.
16:51:06 I'll talk about, messing up things. Actually, I mean, like, internship was one thing.
16:51:11 So I thought was it would be capable for me because the kind of experience I have. I'm carrying some bit of experience, right?
16:51:17 So I think it's, 5 min if I'm not on. So when I joined a master's.
16:51:21 So I thought it will be great for me, but things went upside down. Didn't work out but Even in the case, I have my backup plan ready for me.
16:51:30 So things, you know for and I see if not, I'll do one course so that I my courts are, will be easy for my third semester so that I can wrap up in December 22.
16:51:40 And, Not in India, but here, right, when I graduated. I thought that I won't be getting jobs, so, so I thought it gonna take me around 6 months.
16:51:56 I'm using it because It was such bad actually. So. That is a very small word, I would say, for disasters.
16:52:02 Yeah.
16:52:05 Couple of months, proper strategy every day having the proper ratings like wake up. Go for a walk so or take coffee at whatever you like and then play, study for some time, talk to people, maybe I'll, I'll read Jim most of them every day or I'll play back for 10.
16:52:26 So. I know it's just around the corner, but, there was always this doubt right in your mind.
16:52:34 That is, I'm going right. Until and another day you get that offer. Yeah, it's yes, you won't be knowing right so I thought probably December, when we graduated, you know, like it's not going to be.
16:52:46 We're not going to be in good place for next few months. I expect, expect we to get jobs, we are on June summer, but.
16:52:54 It does. The other end. We got it earlier. I thought the struggle would be even more harder, but yeah.
16:53:01 I don't know whether I'm lucky or things worked out what at the end of the.
16:53:05 It was good.
16:53:05 No, it's I guess what I've heard so far about your journey and what everyone would think as well.
16:53:12 See it's always a mixture of luck and hard work. And we see the hard work like everyone does that but it's just you know the times you know that are not good or that do not work fine for you.
16:53:23 So it's just the both because without hard work I don't think so you get anywhere actually.
16:53:29 So that I could see with all the conversations that that we did that was there and obviously there was a bit of luck factor as well.
16:53:37 So hard works, I don't know, I mean, people generalize, but I would say are a proper routine.
16:53:45 Like if you have a proper rotate, things will fall into place eventually. People say, people talk about, doing things out of blocks or like, why to have out of the box things?
16:53:55 Just keep everything in your box only. So like pretty pretty long thing that I mean have to if you're if you're a bodies fresh your mind will be in good space.
16:54:06 I used to get it like Good. And like, every day, the day before, you upgrade 10 jobs.
16:54:14 Every next year I used to get rejection. I was like, it's okay, fine. I even I used to search for any feedback in those transactions I used to Take this advantages, right?
16:54:22 So, there was one more strategy. Like every Monday, I don't know whether that people know it or not.
16:54:28 LinkedIn has. 1 50 limit count for, sending invitations, right?
16:54:35 Same.
16:54:31 Bye Monday afternoon by 1 50 will get over. So every week before only before we before week. I know.
16:54:40 We'll have to send up, I mean, the connection first because recruiters are on me. So I have my list steady.
16:54:47 My probably 2 days, 3 days time, I hardly used to get at least 10 or 15 degrees accepted and probably one or 2 people will be playing that.
16:54:55 That's all I need. I'm more than happy because Someone is reaching you, right? It's not just job.
16:55:00 They might guide you to some other place. Some folks, right? A couple of folks on, I think, FAT, SET, CVS.
16:55:07 I think it this recruiters will help me. I mean, it's not just, they told me, how can I approach?
16:55:13 So that, does, that is also one thing, right? I mean, They must, but there is success in the trade is also use that thing as your tool.
16:55:20 Like that's 1 thing.
16:55:20 Yeah, I know it's a difficult time emotionally. It depends on how you cope up with it, but I just wanna say, if there's no other option, like you can't.
16:55:33 Cry on it every day. You have to get stronger. And that's what I've learned from this country like it does make you that.
16:55:41 You have to, you know, hustle every day like for everything for anything. If one day you just sit and cry.
16:55:50 It won't come back to you like. If crime would have heard that I would have gotten zillions of office like I can say it out and loud right now that will not help you you have to get up every day and you have to be consistent with your team and that's where your hard work pays off that okay you have been consistent and you have been doing it every day.
16:56:14 Someday it would it would you know come back to you but not crying or you know clipping or anything would help.
16:56:18 Exactly, I mean like Time doesn't take you anywhere like rather than That's in time and cry.
16:56:26 Use the crime period to apply for a job or like learn something. Right. Do something go. Maybe I'm boasting myself but yeah so My step count used to be 15,000 or 20,000.
16:56:35 Well, I was applying jobs. They list of continues to be about that, that is it, right?
16:56:38 Nice. Yeah.
16:56:41 Wait a morning, 1 h every evening, wanna rise to talk to people the time. My walking minute is like, there's something walk and talk I do.
16:56:48 So. If there is a meeting, I do it, through, through like, And that helped me that helped me to supply routines also.
16:56:57 And as I mentioned, hustle every day. So when you send me this question, I made my notes like what to talk.
16:57:02 One of my point is that only the land of opportunities. Infinite opportunities I would say. You have to hassle every day to move to the next level.
16:57:11 Thanks, won't come to you. They won't keep you in a plate. You have to go and fetch that.
16:57:16 It is there, it is available, right in front of you. Go and grab it, but put your effort.
16:57:21 Good. Sure's your efforts, right? So you have to go and get that thing.
16:57:27 Hi Andy and couple of codes that really make sense for you know when you leave your own country and come to a new one and you know when you have to study you have to cook you have to clean you have to search for a job and then other thing also have to fall in picture you know it just looks glitter from outside.
16:57:46 But you know, we are working for it every day. Like for example, right now we're sitting off our work hours, like in between our work hours, I would say, and we're doing this just because you know, we could also help the community back and this is how you know you fit in a lot of new things in your routine as well.
16:58:07 So that's what what I have felt and what I guess everyone has come here and talked as well that you know.
16:58:12 This country really teaches you a lot and you become that positive and you know from all those struggling periods.
16:58:21 And then you know the value of what you have gotten and that's the opportunity and everything.
16:58:27 This country is built on a basic moral actually. A cereal of the fittest. If you're strong enough, you're gonna serve a year.
16:58:36 If you're not your week, not the place for you. Maybe I'm not saying I'm not disclosing anyone, but that's how things work here.
16:58:41 Like. You have to be, you have to be, proactive. You have to take chances as simple as that.
16:58:49 Like, you mentioned, right, this, like, Okay. John is here and there and then grabbing it.
16:58:57 Yeah.
16:59:05 Yeah.
16:58:57 So, or maybe. Every small thing is a chance someone I would say like. Start from choosing your room, it's when you got admit right to the time you dodged it. Everything is a chance.
16:59:08 No, no.
16:59:12 So you always have chances but you have to grab them. You have to take right chances. That's where it was.
16:59:16 Yeah.
16:59:18 If it is like 51 49, I'm more than happy to go for it. Like I don't want 80 or 90.
16:59:23 Should be 51 because You never know that 51 can turn to 90 or 95. So, so like.
16:59:29 Even while coming here like lot of people Oh, tell me, like, no need to, we're doing well back in India.
16:59:36 Like, we both are working, for about Marida, recently, so. We got on money. We've that's nothing but we're like I don't want to get settled.
16:59:44 Sorry. Small things. It's not it's not just about money. I want to change so it's okay.
16:59:49 Let's let this opportunity. So why should I? Glad that my wife is also on same line.
16:59:54 So. We walk together. That was one good thing happened for me. Like since we are the same place, right?
17:00:02 Cooking, cleaning, part times, everything we should together. Like, I mean, as I mentioned, Exactly.
17:00:06 One is better than 2. Yeah, that.
17:00:10 So we don't come in again. We don't have. Good. They're She cooks.
17:00:24 She cooks. At least 50% of my you know pigs got started over there only I have a good partner at my room at my home So it's not it's not us, formula is easy for the others.
17:00:36 I know, the bachelor's stuff for them, you know, if they're pressures, they might not experience this cultures and altogether, they're watery.
17:00:42 They don't know how to cook. Stuff but so, the, I would suggest people coming over here like.
17:00:46 That is for a couple of days back in India. That would really. Give a chance. It's not about professional experience.
17:00:53 So that will teach you how to manage your finances also. Like how to. Deal with things, right?
17:00:58 So you have to have that knowledge of I mean, things. So side of if you come to. After about this, we come here, right?
17:01:04 Good. You'll be facing hardship because Hey, people will be in different mentalities. You have to get accustomed to you may have to be flexible.
17:01:11 So it's not it's not pretty easy but one does a mention. Thanks a flash on Instagram.
17:01:17 I don't believe all those things.
17:01:17 Yes, Telby, I just wanted to say they'll still be flashier and glittery on Instagram.
17:01:24 We'll never show you the bad side of it. Never.
17:01:27 Flash of things are only 5%, someone to be honest with you. Only only with the moment, right?
17:01:29 Yeah.
17:01:32 I mean, these guys people are showing the reality also. Some people are doing really good content thinking that.
17:01:36 He was it's not about going for rights, taking service and posting an Instagram. You have to do a lot of stuff.
17:01:42 Things are changing, I would say. I'm not, I'm not happy to use it, and, I'll use it probably once in a week.
17:01:49 Or 1015 min I I don't have it on my mobile also. But yeah, so.
17:01:55 I'll talk so but for the people who are coming right don't get. Oh, like I talked about this that's been shown on.
17:02:05 So it's not that it don't work that way. So H.
17:02:04 Thank you. Because it's a very big investment that you make. And it's something that you're investing it for 2 years or 3 years and then things come out for you.
17:02:17 So yeah, I guess that was a fair discussion of talking about, you know, how you have developed with a lot of things here and it's just not one or 2 or 3.
17:02:26 There's a lot of things you get in a plateau that you have to deal with. So that mental strength and everything has to be there, or it just.
17:02:35 You have to be ready to develop it. All through that time. So I guess that was a great discussion and we have discussed a lot about ASU and I guess that would be great help to a lot of folks.
17:02:46 So before we end this podcast, any last parting words. For the students who are wishing to come to ASU, anything that as.
17:02:57 Part of the alumni group you want to share.
17:03:00 So far it's not just about ASU. We, in the statements, Do you want the search before coming to U.S.A. because there is no written back flight so easily because There'll be a lot on your head, which you can't even imagine, a kind of pressure or I am also stress you will have it here.
17:03:22 It's enormous. That is so much. There's some quantity to measure also. So.
17:03:26 So do your, proper research before coming here. And yeah, so and even after coming here also it's never going to be the people who come here before tennis or so they're still struggling so things won't be easy.
17:03:41 It's like flexible mindset. So you have to adjust with things. You have to get, get a along with people, get used to here.
17:03:48 None things will fall to place on them. Be proud to talk to people like learn new things like Oh, like, so my motto would be morey about a more of being flexible like So the morphics will you are it's not just about changing your goal or anything so the way you approach should be flexible like Even the gold can be changed though, but yeah, but operators should be flexible and you have to be here have
17:04:13 to have that mentality that So after after. Get this thing done. Thanks. Yeah.
17:04:23 Yes, you, if you're coming here, I will get,
17:04:20 Hi.
17:04:26 Root say, 1 15 1 20 is very often at least in this was the thing I should be looking at the first but yeah How does is hot?
17:04:38 Arizona is really hot and by the way it's not desert by the way. So it's as.
17:04:40 It's not desert. It's it's Teret. It's mountains. We cut it its valley.
17:04:45 It's like bullshit. So a lot of heat will be inside the ball so that's why it's more hot it's like it's not like India Where do you get a bit of sweat or tanner easily, but here it's more towards dry heat.
17:05:03 It won't make you done, but it, make your skin burn like anything, like you keep your hand on your st, it feels like the Do you find, probably only 3 months, June?
17:05:13 May June July on August the next 4 months. If you, I don't even say struggle because we don't be outside, 24 by 7, right?
17:05:22 Only I understand that we have something. I got. Like people who who are talks about ours and talk about it also.
17:05:28 It's not that bad here. It is good only. We are serving people at Salivary from 1,900.
17:05:34 So we have this is running throughout the time so it's very good and It's, I like Arizona.
17:05:40 I mean, I'm moved to Florida for 5 months last year. Because my wife shop actually we both are working remotely.
17:05:47 I mean But, our company asked her to be there for. Florida is beautiful, but Arizona is my home.
17:05:54 Hello, everyone who's coming to Arizona. We're most important. This is a nice place.
17:05:59 It's not what your smart people show or what people talk about isn't hot. It's not like that.
17:06:03 You can manage.
17:06:05 Great. I guess you clarify my, you know, doubts as well that it's not a desert.
17:06:11 Like I should not say much. I'm from Texas. Like right now. So.
17:06:15 We get the most of the heat as well here. So good luck to both of us. The summer days are coming for us over 100 510 degrees.
17:06:24 But rest assured, I really want to thank again for you taking our time discussing all these things and we'll have your, below, the description so that everyone could reach out to you.