Unravel the compelling story of a visa maverick who navigated H4, F1, and back to H4 status. This dynamic journey showcases a recruiter's evolution into a full-time coach, mastering multiple roles.
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Are you from India? Wishing to come to the USA for your studies? Is your dream university - Seattle University? If yes, grab a pen, paper, and water, and you are all good to know everything. From researching the dream university to getting selected and beating the elephant in the room (i.e. the VISA process) to settling up - you need to know EVERYTHING because, at the end of the day, it is a foreign land with a lot of newness, loneliness, and self-dependency.
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Visa Virtuoso: From H4 to F1 and Back Again, Shreya Mehta - A Recruiter's Journey to Full-Time Coaching Success | Off the Record with Saman — Student Abroad Podcast
17:27:12 Hi, everyone! We're back with another episode on off the record with me, someone on itspad.
17:27:19 And uh, the saga just continues. And we're having more students, more stories, more to talk about on things.
17:27:26 And I just try my level best to get as many degree programs so that it's all diverse.
17:27:31 So this time we have somebody from the Mba side. So you'd learn more on that degree program. And also it's just not somebody coming on f 1, that somebody who is already here on a different visa, and then went on to f 1 visa, and then a lot of things around it. So this would be a good uh, you know, experience for a lot of people to relate to.
17:27:56 And get out. And obviously, uh, we have Shreeya here, and uh, we're so delighted to have her. And whoever has not seen her on social media. I've seen her, and I love all her videos. And that's really like helpful for a lot of folks. And.
17:28:11 I am really, really humbled that she came part of the Podcast, and she'll talk about her experiences and a lot of other things as well. So stay tuned and um share over to you. Please introduce yourself to my audience, and uh to talk about more about.
17:28:29 Where are you right now? And what visa are you? On? What country you came from? Which year you came from? All those things.
17:28:37 Okay, perfect. That's that's a lot of things. And I would share it right away. Perfect. Uh, Hi.
17:28:42 Firstly, thank you so much for having me and giving me a platform to share my story. Like you said it is a little different than.
17:28:49 Any international student, because I came on an H. 4 visa, and then, you know.
17:28:53 The con. The story continued, so Hi, everybody! My name is Tria. I am from India.
17:28:59 I come from Rajasthan, which is, I mean I I come from a very small hometown, and then I studied in Mumbai. I've done finance back in India.
17:29:07 I came to us in 2015. So December 2015. Um, seems like.
17:29:13 An error. I do. I I can't do math, so I'm not gonna do the numbers, but seems like an error for sure. I I am a trailing spouse, and that's why she says that I was in a different reason. Then I came on an f 1, so as a trailing spouse. I was in H. 4 when I came. My husband didn't have his um documents for Green cut, so I couldn't get my ead.
17:29:31 And.
17:29:31 Because I couldn't get my Id. I knew that there's no way. I'm just gonna sit at home forever. I took good 6 months to understand the culture, know the language and everything that I needed to actually just, you know, just not fit in. But understand that there's a big life change that has happened. I took that time, started preparing for my gmad.
17:29:49 Absolutely did not score. Well.
17:29:52 Didn't want to give it again, because I was like, I'm okay, not studying anymore.
17:29:55 Um. But then, when all of this was happening uh, my spouse decided um to have another job and take up another job. So when I came I was in La for a year.
17:30:03 He took up another job and we shifted to Seattle, and I'm so glad we did.
17:30:08 I love Seattle a lot more. So right now I'm in Seattle, and I've been here for over 7 years, and that's where my actual student journey of f. 1 started. I did my Mba. From Seattle University.
17:30:21 And um.
17:30:21 So I started with an H. 4 in Seattle University. But then I shifted to f 1 for multiple reasons, and we'll talk about that some more. But then I shifted to f 1 um from in my second quarter. But but yeah, but that's who I am, and that's where I am right now.
17:30:37 That's perfect. And that's 1 thing uh that. I really love, that. You know, we have a lot of ways.
17:30:51 Okay.
17:30:44 That one can be an international students. It it's not always that you come back from your home country and study something. It's maybe, like, you know, you're just chilling, and it's somehow just.
17:31:07 Hmm.
17:30:55 Takes you that. Let's get ahead with the degree program or anything of that sort. And uh, that is one thing that we really wanted to touch base on. Maybe a lot of folks would not know about it. So everyone, yeah, like.
17:31:09 All yours here, so.
17:31:11 With our podcast starting. I just really wanted to understand, because you were here uh, on an H 4.
17:31:25 Hmm.
17:31:30 Okay.
17:31:18 No. Is there any sort of motivation like? Obviously, you took that 6 months to understand the country, the culture, and how things work here. And it's it's it's typically different from what we've seen back in India. So what really motivated you to move from H. 4 to f 1, because there is a lot of things that comes into picture, maybe finances, a lot of time management and a lot of other things. So.
17:31:42 How things got motivated towards the graduate studies.
17:31:44 Yeah, I think that's a great question. Because even I was asking myself that when I was trying to switch visas, because, of course, there's a cost involved. There's a process involved documentation. All of us have gone through the visa process right? But.
17:31:56 So because I didn't have any ad. I couldn't work on campus, and I really wanted to work on campus one for the financial reason, and second, for the exposure, reason.
17:32:05 Because, being an international student, you can't work anywhere else. Legally correct, you can only work on campus. And I wanted to work on campus for again one.
17:32:14 I, I can actually have conversation with people, get better at my communication skills, get better at knowing what all opportunities do I have? What's the culture basically in us for work.
17:32:25 And then, of course, the stipend piece of it, because then you get some amount of money that you can either pull back in the household. You can keep it for your own expenses, depending on. You know how you are anybody who's providing that that finances for you work together. But that being said, I would really say, anybody who's coming here for a masters, either. Now, deciding to do a masters definitely think of an on campus job, not just from the perspective of Oh, it will give us some money. But then, from the big.
17:32:50 Picture of it will give us some experience.
17:32:54 In the industry. You would get to know some of these tools that.
17:32:57 You know here that we use that we don't use back in our own countries. And more than that, that'll just give us so much more confidence, because once you graduate you would not say that I have no experience in us. You would probably say I do have experience, because whatever you're doing on campus. It's literally not just admin there are a lot more things that you can do on campus. So my motivation definitely was like, listen, I just wanna go out, meet people and have my.
17:33:20 Like start chatting with more people. Not just my spouses.
17:33:24 Friends, and I know I'm like people are not gonna love me for that. But honestly, when I came here the 1st 6 months, I was just somebody's wife, and I was.
17:33:31 Probably not. Okay about only that. And I wanted to have, like my own circle, my, I wanted to have my own conversations with people. And I was like.
17:33:40 University is going to be the best place, and I.
17:33:42 Someone. If you would hear I was there starting 7 Am. Until 10 Pm. So my classes would end 9 Pm. I would come back home at 1010, 30, have the glass of milk or the biggest dinner, and then just sleep for the next day, and then get up at 5 am. Again, and I did that for 2 years. I would do it all over again.
17:34:01 That was supposed to be my next question.
17:34:04 Sorry.
17:34:04 Be like good on your discipline. That chair! What did I just did to myself? I was really having a fun. Life took my life to 5 am. To 10 pm. And I totally understand that's really a big step.
17:34:20 You know um, and I understand, and I really love it, that you honestly came out of it, that you know.
17:34:36 Penny.
17:34:26 We really want some motive in life. There's some personal branding involved. And you know, the visa thing is really crazy here in us, that's 1 thing, and you know.
17:34:45 Yeah.
17:34:49 Yeah.
17:34:37 So there are foundations with every visa like. I'm also on one, you know, and we have to maintain that trail of work trail of things, so that we're not doing anything off the record uh, not.
17:34:50 Yeah.
17:34:52 Of fact.
17:34:52 So there was a great treason, and ah!
17:34:55 With on-campus job. You get experience. You get a lot of networking opportunities because the myself, they are like one, you know, universal hub to a lot of you know, people around. So I agree that's like the best thing. But uh, when we come down to the college here, Seattle University, so was it just like a, you know, a comfort space being in Seattle.
17:35:24 Mm.
17:35:19 Or you know you had, like, you know, bunch of options from where you choose university. And how did the curriculum and everything stood out for you that you chose this one.
17:35:30 I think I love that question because I know a lot of us have difficulty choosing which university over. Why, a lot of us think about like whether finances? Um. And then we also think about like, would we get jobs with that city, provide the opportunities that we need after graduation for me. The biggest um reason was one definitely. My spouse was here. So I wanted to find something here in the area. Um, we've had an arrangement so we didn't want to do like long distance.
17:35:55 And I don't think we have. We were allowed to do it, but then um second probably would be um. So there were 2 options that I had. University and University of Washington University of Washington also has great ranking in business school. It was little um.
17:36:09 I think it was burning my pockets a little more than I would wanted it to. And second, honestly, I've never been in us. I've never worked in us. I didn't know would I get that roi or not? Now I think I would have got it. But I'm glad that I did Seattle University, because when I start with the Academy councillors, Um. One, they were very welcoming. Second, they had, like great community of like Asian students in general, because for me, diversity really matters, because then, in a class, when you're sitting your OP.
17:36:34 Are taken into picture. They understand it's a global market. And the things are taught that ways. And 3, rd very important thing, when we went to. When I went to see the curriculum they showed me something called emotional intelligence. Okay? So.
17:36:45 All of us.
17:36:47 I mean. Come on. All of us have been taught emotions. Nobody has been taught how intelligent you can be, how intellectual you can be with emotions as well. Right.
17:36:55 And I was like, listen, I'm just gonna be here because this looks pretty interesting. And I always wanted to get into marketing because I wanted to be an entrepreneur like I am today.
17:37:03 And I was like, let's just get started. So definitely curriculum definitely how deep it was burning my pockets. And 3, rd I wanted to be in the area. So I wanted to take something where I can just go and be with people. I don't have to travel. I don't have to do it hybrid and online. And at that time it was 2,017. It was. There was nothing like hybrid or online right.
17:37:20 Um. So yeah, I mean, and looking back at it. And I'm I'm glad I did, because.
17:37:25 On campus um options, opportunities, everything that I got through them, I mean, I've become what I have become honestly because of Seattle University.
17:37:34 I totally can relate it, because, uh, you know, it's just not the curricula which stands out for you. It's a lot of other things as well.
17:37:43 Online. We usually see the rankings and everything but a lot comes out of the alumini and how they are catering towards students. And obviously, that really counts like.
17:37:54 People may consider it as a cliche like. If you're coming to us, let's just get out of our community and explore more. That's good, but somehow you still need uh, you know your community around as well for times.
17:38:07 But for times like those times, you really need it, and I agree to that point as well. I really wanted to see.
17:38:14 Some faces.
17:38:15 Like which can really help me cope up with things in the initial times, and then eventually, I do have a lot of friends outside of the country or from us itself. That's totally fine. But you know that's the comfort space I totally agree with so.
17:38:30 Absolutely.
17:38:31 Yeah. So here we come, like Seattle University, all good, all sorted. We'll talk about the visa things.
17:38:42 Yeah.
17:38:45 Yeah.
17:38:48 Okay.
17:38:37 A little later, because I know, you know, changes from H. 4 to f, 1 needs going back to your country getting stamped and coming back, so we'll return to the elephant of the room later. But.
17:38:54 Hmm.
17:38:49 You know. Uh, I really wanted to talk more about in terms of finances, because that's 1 biggest factor. And I really wanted to.
17:38:57 Like.
17:39:01 Hmm.
17:39:07 Yeah.
17:38:59 Understand more if you are running H. 4, obviously, and you don't have any finances from before in us, especially.
17:39:08 But you know how.
17:39:12 Hmm.
17:39:10 Did you manage things to come on f. 1 and use.
17:39:13 It came on it on quarter 2. So if you can walk us through the finances.
17:39:25 Activation.
17:39:30 Yeah.
17:39:18 Any sort of like. I know there are a lot of international scholarships that uh universities provide, not all of them provided, but some come in the form of uh jobs. So anything that you do.
17:39:32 Highlight on that, as well.
17:39:33 Yeah, totally. So yes, I mean finances, a big factor when you're deciding or when you're becoming an international student. So for me, so we'll start with the 1st part of it. That ho! How, what, how are my finances tackle? So of course my husband was here. He has done his masters from here, so he was the one who was kind of financing my masters. So we got into an agreement that you give me money for 2 years, and then I would pay you in the very 1st year, and I'm so glad I was able to do it.
17:39:57 Of my 1st job, I think here is your money. We started with trade, uh, but then, yeah, he financed it for me because both of us didn't want to ask it from the parents, and when we, when we chatted about our futures together, we like. I was pretty sure I wanted to do a masters, because I'm a Csc. Is back from India, and I was like I have to do a masters to like set things right for me in the next stage of my career. So we started with that. So my finances were like pretty straight, and because he had an idea.
17:40:22 Job. Um. I was not worried much about it. We were definitely living paycheck by paycheck, but I was not very worried about it. That where it's gonna come like the next quarter fees right for me. It was around, and I'll give you some certain numbers, because it must have changed from over there. I graduated in 2,019. It was like around, I think, 8 50 per shredded. And I had like 56 good credits. So I think it turned out to be like the total expenses of like printers. Blah blah, blah!
17:40:46 Reads all these classes.
17:40:48 Turned out to be around like good 60,000 for my Mba.
17:40:52 Um, I got a little bit more than that in my 1st job. So, guys, you get your money back just definitely invest not just your money, invest everything that you have in those 2 years into that program, like your energy, your social skills, um, your communication, your intellectual invest, that in your degree, you would absolutely get it all back right? Um, but then, that being said, yes, there are a lot of scholarships. Cr University does 100% provide scholarships. I know.
17:41:18 Know a lot of my international student friends have taken that a lot of my classmates did, that. They were filling the forms all the time going back to Academy. I honestly didn't do it. Someone, because I thought me and my husband could manage it. I mean, we were in done here and there, but.
17:41:32 I knew that we could manage it, so I didn't want to take the opportunity from someone who might would have needed it more than me, so I didn't even try for it. But I know Seattle University does have it, and most of the universities has it. It's always good to ask your academic. It's always good to check on the website. It's always good to find an alumni on Linkedin and ask like, Hey, this is.
17:41:52 Where I'm going to get my next degree. What like can you suggest a couple of these questions? And then you can ask them. So I would say your networking should not start from the 1st day of your college, probably a lot earlier than that.
17:42:11 It is.
17:42:04 I totally agree. And you know I just made those faces because these numbers are still big for me, because, uh, if I am still in the 1st year after my college, but I would really support on that fact that you know, once you move Fromr to Usd like when you start earning here.
17:42:23 Um.
17:42:29 Yeah.
17:42:24 It doesn't look that much. You can still give back that money, you know, with your husband, father, or maybe a loop, because I I'm seeing a lot of folks here. Things are easier if you have a good job.
17:42:46 Yeah.
17:42:37 And you're getting would pay. But if if it's not like a bar has to be set up, it's good. You can still give back because it's more of usd conversion. So it always good to spray uh. The rate just moves up and up for you.
17:42:52 But.
17:42:52 Totally. I know, if you only want to add one thing to it, that.
17:42:59 You know.
17:42:56 Have that motivation that it is a loan that you're taking from somebody, and then you gotta give it back. See? I'm I'm mentioning my spouse because he was here. He did a lot of, you know the managing logistical things that I was. I wouldn't manage otherwise.
17:43:08 But then.
17:43:09 If it, even if it's your parents, even if it's taking from a sibling, make sure that in your mind, you know that I'm gonna repay them. Somehow. It can be a big trip. It can be anything. But you're just gonna repay them, because that would give you the motivation to do a lot bigger than you would otherwise. I mean health me a lot.
17:43:26 It really feels you really independent, because ah.
17:43:36 Yeah.
17:43:29 When once I was in my graduate program. Uh, you know, it was depending for that source of income from my family, and you know, you always cut short on things like, okay, let's just cut short on things. Let's live like more of a, you know, tight.
17:43:44 Life.
17:43:45 Yeah, yeah.
17:43:45 Once you've done out earning.
17:43:51 Yeah. Totally.
17:43:58 Yeah.
17:43:47 The world is out there, and you can go as much crazy as you want. So you know that was there like. But now I see, and I really feel proud that you know I'm giving back that money back so.
17:44:04 Pleasure.
17:44:00 There is a sense of independence for you as well, and you know, living here earning so things that possible like, I'll just totally second, that thing, that it's ease easy to give back.
17:44:09 It is, it is possible, and I've and I've heard it from a lot of people that it's easier to be a trading spouse. Um, it's very difficult to be an international student and vice versa. Also. Okay, I've heard, like internationals from sing or like trading spouse is saying that it's easier for you all.
17:44:22 But it's honestly not easier for anybody, and it's not.
17:44:25 You know, difficult for anybody. It's what circumstances you are in and how you react to it. It was difficult for me, because I was a trading spouse, and I was financially dependent on somebody else. It might be difficult for an international student because they don't know anything about it. They're absolutely landing on a plain ground, and there's nobody actually to give them a direction. Right? So it's everybody has their challenges. So I mean, do not come with that thought that I'm gonna be an international student. But then.
17:44:50 Ground is easier for the other person.
17:44:52 No, just look at your challenges, and then take it from there.
17:44:55 I know, like there is always pros and cons like. For example.
17:44:59 Your.
17:45:02 Yeah.
17:45:00 Better half was there, and.
17:45:03 He had seen the world. He had been a student once, so he was there to guide you.
17:45:12 Mm-hmm.
17:45:17 100%.
17:45:22 Totally.
17:45:24 Totally.
17:45:08 Okay, I understand. For f 1 students, I did not have anyone, but someone like Drips off. And you know our challenges are different from what you know, somebody on the board moving to f 1 would feel. But challenges are everywhere that's constant, but it may differ from time to time, so.
17:45:25 I know you talked about the finances, and there was like a lot. Because, you know, for normal masters, degrees, basically like close to 33 credits.
17:45:35 Yeah.
17:45:47 Yeah.
17:45:36 He takes excited. I was just giving a deep what? I cannot do it that much. But yeah, that that's fair. Also, like the cost that I see 8 50. I think so fair. I'm I know this would have changed by the time, but.
17:45:51 East.
17:45:50 It has already. Yeah.
17:45:52 I check the website like, is it already changed? And I'm so glad that I'm done with it. I don't have to pay about it anymore.
17:45:57 Yeah.
17:46:08 Mm.
17:45:57 So um, I just wanted to touch base on the point like, were there any sorts of you know the on campus job that you did so. It was more of like a teaching assistant or a research assistant, or you were more on the administrative side.
17:46:11 Just wanting to understand more on that.
17:46:13 Yeah, this is a great question. I'm glad you touched upon that because I had a thought when I was talking about it so definitely try finding an on campus job which is related to your work.
17:46:23 Which is closer to the people that you would want to generally network with. And 3rd thing, which is gonna help you build that scale that you might need. Once you graduate right? And I picked all of these 3 things up and took a job as a graduate assistant at the admission at the graduate um Academy counselor's office, graduate, Academy Council's office. Because then I wanted to speak with the incoming students about what challenges do they have and wanted to like, speak with them.
17:46:48 So that I can actually share some knowledge, my experiences, because again, I knew a little bit more because I was in the second quarter, and as I come, speak with me. I really want to speak to you all, and share everything that I have, you know, but which I have learned that being said I was a coach back in India, so I wanted to continue doing that here as well. Right? I just didn't know in which direction. So when I came here, and I when I got the on campus job, I was super happy because I was.
17:47:11 Indirectly trying to.
17:47:13 You know, getting to coach these people about like what directions they can take? Um, how they can utilize the next quarter if their 1st quarter what kind of electives they can take. So I would say, Yes.
17:47:22 Choose an on campus job which is related to your work, which I didn't. That held extremely. Because when I so I started giving this orientation programs. I started delivering speeches and presentations there, so I could stand in front of a lot of people.
17:47:36 Which I would have been very scared in the 1st quarter, thinking that I I don't have the accent. I don't have the language. I don't know what they want from me, right? We don't know the set of expectations that they have, because whatever we've been taught in our home country might be different than wherever you go in the world, right? Not just us anywhere.
17:47:52 So it was very, very helpful for me.
17:47:54 Um all the bosses that I I still call them bosses like that. But all the bosses that I had during that one and a half years now we still in contact. They are fantastic networks to me. They have given me um recommendations or nominations to be nominated in an alumni award. So I'm just saying that once you get into that groove of.
17:48:14 Doing what you love, doing everything else.
17:48:16 You know, just just gets in the place automatically. So find a job that's related to your work. That's gonna be related to your work after graduation, which is extremely helpful.
17:48:33 Yeah.
17:48:26 That that's I totally agree. And uh, things were a little derailed for me when I joined college, and I got a job like I'll give a story like I was the teaching assistant, and you know I used to grade the assignments and the exams and everything, and you know there were students used to, just, you know, stand in front of me, and like, you know, this is not the correct marketing we have mentioned. Pointers and stuff.
17:48:50 Hmm.
17:49:02 Um.
17:49:05 Hmm.
17:48:50 I was like, I don't wanna read the like the back person. It's just the professor who just asked me gave me those answer key. So eventually I moved, being a research assistant, and I was fairly happy there that I don't want to face like negative things that like, give me one month. Give me 2 months. Give me that! Give me that! And I felt like, no, I can't do that. No.
17:49:11 Yeah, that's good.
17:49:12 The professor would be doing it. So that was one place that I switched after one semester and.
17:49:16 Hmm.
17:49:20 That's good.
17:49:17 The next 2 semesters I was in Ra. Totally. So, you know. I understand that part like the.
17:49:27 Hmm.
17:49:23 Obviously, that is a part time you have to give 20 h you are paid for it, but get paid for something.
17:49:31 Okay.
17:49:30 You love it because anyways the.
17:49:32 Program is really heavy for you with the subjects and assignments and a lot of other things, and I understand 56 credits could have taken a lot of hard work from your end and time, and burning that midnight oil and writing assignments. I understand.
17:49:49 Totally.
17:50:02 Totally.
17:49:48 Totally. So that's like, Uh, that's really fair on we're talking about, like, you know, search for those on campus job. And things really start from way early of you joining the college and not the 1st day, so that you just not like, you know. Hi, Hello! And you know things are almost gone by that time.
17:50:08 Yeah, yeah.
17:50:09 Totally.
17:50:09 So. Um, I just wanted to like uh, understand, how is your experience?
17:50:18 Hmm.
17:50:15 Uh, when you were here on h 4 like move to one as a student. So how you know. And then, later, you know, you were working with couple of organizations, and now.
17:50:25 Yeah.
17:50:28 Yeah.
17:50:26 An entrepreneur like you wear that hat and your own boss.
17:50:30 Yeah.
17:50:40 It's a lot.
17:50:30 So you know, how was the transition for you like, if you can give specific examples from, you know, it's it's really an exciting journey for you. We have seen all.
17:50:45 Yep.
17:50:41 Nick, it is 1, 2, yeah, 3 phases you've seen like as an H 4. And if one and you working with an organization, how are things? And right now? How are things.
17:50:50 Yeah. And I think, um, when you, when you was when you were asking me that question, I was just thinking in the background, a lot has happened in these 8 years. Right? Um, so, yeah. So so I came on an age 4. I was on my h 4 for almost one and a half years until I got into my Mba. And then I decided to be on A on my f. 1, for the reasons I told you for my finances, and definitely to be able to work on campus.
17:51:11 Um. So I went to India, and I got my f 1, because that was the fastest way of doing it. I could have done a change of status here as well, but that was taking a lot longer, and I wanted to start my quarter with my f. 1, so I can start working in that quarter itself. Um. So I went to India. I got my f 1, and because I was already working, I didn't have to, you know, go through a lot of questions, or it was not drooling. The interview was nothing. Which is, they would just like, why do you want to switch.
17:51:36 And I was like, because I don't have any ad. And I want to work on campus. And then they were like, Why do you want to work on campus, and I was like, because I want to gain some experience and.
17:51:44 Definitely like, you know, earn some money there so that I can. I can have that pocket stipend, or whatever.
17:51:50 Um everybody's interviews different. I've spoken to a couple of my friends, and their interview was different. Mine was better because I had like very clarified answer, because when they asked like, Are you gonna work there later? Would you stay in us? And I was more like.
17:52:04 Um, my spouse is there. So I'm definitely gonna stay there. I'm not sure if I want to work or not. I'm definitely like.
17:52:10 I'm just figuring out what I want to do. I wanted it to be that subtle, because if they understand that you have this motive of like staying here forever. Unfortunately, they rejected. Sometimes I've heard it a lot. So I'm just giving that, you know, because it's off the required. I'm just giving that idea that you probably don't want to be. Do you all be very subtle about like what your future might look like after graduation? Um.
17:52:33 Doing all the.
17:52:31 I understand that. Sorry to cut you there, but specifically, like.
17:52:41 Yeah.
17:52:35 I know I've prepped all those answers, but I was really subtle there, like, you know, it has to be convincing in your tone.
17:52:42 But you know that's what you're gonna do or.
17:52:44 It shouldn't sound vague, or you know, you've learned by heart, and you just talking about it.
17:52:50 I, I.
17:52:49 It's gonna update. Yeah. And I'm glad that you said that. You know, because I teach this to my clients that it's not this story that matters. It's a story telling that matters. So you have that story. But then, if you're not telling it right way uh, with voice modulation and with that impact. Then they're just not gonna believe it.
17:53:04 Um. But then, yeah, fast track. I think I came here. I wasn't my f 1, and my program was not a stamp program. Um. So it was, only it only had like one year, and then 2090. We also saw Covid happened. So right after 2019, right after I graduated I got into Microsoft, so I had a very good job, and everything was like really happy and whatnot. And right after Microsoft I got into apps.
17:53:29 Amazon. And then, when Amazon was happening, I um.
17:53:33 Covid happened, and when I was renewing my H. 4.
17:53:36 Um, it's took around, I really wanna say, 14 months, which would otherwise just take like, let's say, 6 or 8 weeks to renew it with. You know your spouse's company doesn't take more than that, and when it's getting renewed you can still work for 1 80 days. Someone I'm not sure how much you know about h 4. So if you have an h 4 um, and then I'm sorry if you have an f 1, and then you are. You've put a status like change of status, application.
17:53:59 You can still work. Even if the change of change of status application is not being processed, you can still work for 1 80 days after the last day. Legally you could work my 1. 80 days were cleared, and after that I think also 8 months were cleared, and I was.
17:54:15 I had to. I had to give up on my job on Amazon because my visa was not there because of renewal, and it was Covid. I couldn't meet his soul, and we were like there. It's only 2 of us in the house. And then I realized that.
17:54:27 Listen. Financial independence is one thing. Yes, I probably now want visa independence as well, because I don't want to be dependent on somebody else to actually be financial, independent, right? See? I don't have anything against the h. 1 and H. 4. The idea that Covid hit that nobody could think about, and I lost my job and sat at home for 8 months, kind of baffled my mind.
17:54:46 So the next job that I got was a tick tock, and they were not ready to do my h. 1, and which is fair, because they said that in the beginning they might not do it.
17:54:55 The next job that I got was in Uber.
17:54:56 And that's where the story of h. 1 came into being. Because I do my manager. I definitely would need it.
17:55:02 Um, and then they give me the h 1. So the idea to have my own h. 1 was definitely to get that visa independently of each other. So if anybody.
17:55:12 If anybody's jobs, it's affected, the other one can still run the household right? I was very worried about the fact that listen. If you lose it.
17:55:20 Are you gonna go home and like back and literally go back home. And then we were worried about it. And I was like, I'm probably gonna ask my managers with 3 months into my job. I asked them, and they they gave me that.
17:55:29 Fun part about h 1 b is.
17:55:31 Get on your own bus.
17:55:32 Kinda.
17:55:33 You don't have to be dependent on someone else's visa. You're not worried about it. But then, unfortunate thing is, I couldn't do. What I was doing is my entrepreneurship thing. Whatever side business I I have um related to my coaching, I couldn't own that right. So that kind of was a little itchy in my heart that.
17:55:50 So h. 1 and H. 4 is like h 4 you can um for anybody who doesn't know H. 4 is with your ead. You can work, you can have multiple incomes, and you're not sort to like one employee. Even if you're employed at a corporate, you can still have other incomes. Legally, you don't have to worry about that, but then you can't do the same thing on each one, because each one is one single corporate bound. Um.
17:56:11 So yeah, so I'm back on h 4 now, because I'm doing my coaching full time as well. So.
17:56:16 I.
17:56:19 What?
17:56:17 Oh, my God! Look at! Do you see that the roller coaster? It's a full circle.
17:56:24 Debts.
17:56:25 It. It has something lot to learn about, because it's just not.
17:56:30 You know, personal independence, financial independence.
17:56:35 Yeah.
17:56:33 You know, we talked about visa independence lot of things that you experienced, and it is something I'm pretty sure a lot of folks would.
17:56:43 Yeah.
17:56:42 Be experiencing if, like spouses, or you know, maybe others who come up here on dependent visa, and you know.
17:57:03 Yeah.
17:57:08 Yeah.
17:57:12 Yeah.
17:56:50 You're really bound by the visa that you know. Firstly, you're dependent. Then, if you want to switch, you know, to getting a job, getting the then putting your up on putting up yourself on each funding, and then again, with that, each fund we have to stick to one employer, and nothing has to be on the other sites. So there's a lot that you experience when I really love like I'm sorry I see that.
17:57:15 Thank you.
17:57:16 Oh, thank you!
17:57:15 I really loved it. It's like a good roller coaster, right? But it's fun like totally. It's fun that you saw every phase of the life with every visa, opportunity.
17:57:27 And.
17:57:26 Yeah, there, you go.
17:57:28 You like chose. Okay, I will go with this one.
17:57:31 This is not working for me.
17:57:32 I mean. I wondered.
17:57:33 See the idea for any of us who are here. Someone is to build that career and that life right. Nobody is living away.
17:57:41 From their land, from their family, just for like fun. Right? We all of us are living here for opportunities, and the exposure that we get the independence, the quality of life that we get, and nobody would deny that. I know that.
17:57:53 Um, but I wanted to take it, and you know a notch up and understand that. Do I have a saying in a choice in it. I didn't have a choice when I was in H. 4, right? But then I was like, I have a choice now to get an h 1 right now. Also, I have a choice. If I want to get on h. 1 and go into a corporate, I can go it because my now my h. 1 is picked forever. I can anytime go back to it. But when I was thinking of it, for I was honestly thinking, see, I have this.
17:58:17 Resources right? I know how to coach people. I have gone through all of these things. Why am I not doing it just because of one thing which is right. So earlier, I was scared about it for multiple reasons. Covid happened. I wanted that visa independence, but I came back to it because I knew I had something bigger to offer. So I think my visa independent somehow, was a little lesser in value than what I have to offer in coaching. I was like.
17:58:40 I'm gonna take that risk. Get back to H. 4 for a year and a half. See if I can. If I can have that 6 figure business, and if I can have that, then it's going to be H. 4. And then I'm you know, I'm just gonna get on my business, visa. I'll be a solid.
17:58:53 I totally agree, because visa is always the biggest factor you need to check up.
17:59:06 Lord, a.
17:58:58 All sorts of requirements that could work on that visa, and then you'll lead your life on to that. And then, obviously, collection of papers, collection of things, collection of records.
17:59:12 Yeah.
17:59:09 Still, the time you die you have to maintain that file for yourself. So I really agree like it's it's everywhere. Beat h, 4 beat h 1 BF one. You're tied to those particular features, I would say.
17:59:22 It's pretty. Thanks.
17:59:22 Yeah, everything. I I joke sometimes about that with my family, that my memory file is a lot smaller than my visa file. My visa file. Is this big? My memory file? Only this much.
17:59:35 I totally agree, because, you know, there's a lot of things like, you know.
17:59:39 Sick is like. For example, you move from Seattle to, for example.
17:59:43 You know.
17:59:44 You know I moved from Atlanta to Dallas.
17:59:51 Yeah.
17:59:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:59:47 And I had to just remind myself, okay, I have to change my address where all have to change my address. This this, and if it's missed somehow.
17:59:55 You're done.
17:59:57 Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
18:00:05 So.
17:59:59 I'll give one live example that happened with me couple of days back. So my university email got expired. So you know, it's been like good one year that they let us use it after the degree program as well. So.
18:00:12 I used it for a couple of places for student.
18:00:15 Huh!
18:00:21 You can't use it.
18:00:15 And now things are getting on the you know roads. Now that you know that email, Id is not working.
18:00:22 Yeah. For example, I just checked up with my university. Dso.
18:00:28 Hmm.
18:00:27 You know, 2 days back that you know I would.
18:00:32 Mm.
18:00:29 To my personal email address. Can you please update it on my service request.
18:00:33 Hmm, hmm.
18:00:42 Totally.
18:00:33 So that's couple of things that come up into picture. When you talk about visa. You are not that free. You have to get yourself updated on all of the platform. So that's 1.
18:00:53 Yeah, we're Indians.
18:00:43 Totally. And then you have to keep all your documents ready. Not just online. Um, we have very much into like documentation. So we keep a a copy, a physical copy of each document literally.
18:00:54 I know.
18:00:54 He, always.
18:00:56 But that has come really handy, you know, sometimes when we have everything online and people like know, we really need a copy. And we like here, and they just have, like random 5 photocopies sitting in there and say, Why do we even have all this crap.
18:01:07 But then the right moment, it's actually being used. So so we feel like it's.
18:01:11 If you never.
18:01:12 What do you say like, you know? Never enough prepared for it, I would say. Like.
18:01:17 Yeah.
18:01:17 We.
18:01:19 We talk about a lot of things on the visa part, a lot of hassle, but we still love it here like we love maintaining those records we love maintaining those paperwork. So that's 1 thing that's unanimous.
18:01:29 No questions about it.
18:01:30 Yeah, no questions about.
18:01:30 Yeah, because of opportunities.
18:01:33 The you know, the lifestyle that we've maintained here. That's something that we don't want to bother.
18:01:39 Totally.
18:01:40 Yeah, 90%.
18:01:40 Yeah, that's the key.
18:01:42 So one big thing, I guess my next question is, uh for those folks.
18:01:47 Who have worked as 9 to 5 in different organizations.
18:01:52 May have been working right now, but they have certain ideas at the back of their head to start.
18:01:57 Hmm.
18:01:57 But because these are things they're not able to do.
18:02:00 So I know your work with really, you know, immensely.
18:02:09 Yeah.
18:02:12 Yeah.
18:02:14 Yeah.
18:02:05 Amazing opportunity opportunities that you've got with couple of organizations from Microsoft and Amazon. They're all big organizations, with a lot of experience and.
18:02:16 You know, uh a lot of finances as well, which you could have covered up.
18:02:21 Totally.
18:02:21 But you know, leaving those jobs.
18:02:25 And becoming an entrepreneur. I know it looks simple, but it has. It has. It would have taken a toll on you.
18:02:32 On a lot of terms. So.
18:02:34 I just want to ask this question, that how was life from being a 9 to 5.
18:02:39 You know, being an entrepreneur.
18:02:41 Hmm.
18:02:45 Hmm.
18:02:42 What are few things that really kicked off? You were a few things that did not went.
18:02:47 Hmm.
18:02:47 Or may have taken some time for you to adjust, so that.
18:02:51 We talk about those set of people who really want to do it. But.
18:02:54 Hmm.
18:02:56 May I stopping themselves because of few other reasons? And they're still continuing with their 9 to 5.
18:03:02 Totally. Yeah, no, I think that's a great question. Because um, when I was trying to explore and have these conversations, I wish you know there was link off the record with someone, and I could have come in who heard your podcast, but.
18:03:13 I would say um 1st thing if you're trying to beat that 9 beat. But then trying to switch from the 9 to 5 to a to a entrepreneurship, I would probably say, figure out.
18:03:23 Um test the waters. That means start doing something after 5. So I started doing it 6 to 9 in the evening, and then morning before 9, so I would say.
18:03:32 I would do. 5 Am. To 8 am. On. My client. Calls would happen, and then 6 Pm. To 9 pm. Because I mean I sleep very early, so 9 Pm. Is my deadline. Um, so I would do these 6 h every day on my coaching business, either it's social media making those reels, creating those post on Linkedin, speaking to the clients, taking their sessions, being out there in the networking event. All of those things that was my idea of doing a little bit of market research. One do. I have.
18:03:57 The scope. Second, do I have the skills that they need me to? And then do I have those skills that.
18:04:03 Need that would give me that 9 to 5, you know just that paycheck kind of. And 3, rd and the most important thing, what is stopping. You like you need to sit and figure out what is stopping you for me. It was that comfort.
18:04:15 That Cigo 9 0, 5. I have a structured meeting. Somebody's telling me what to do. I'm doing that my paycheck is coming home. Why do I need extra stress? Right? That was me, for, like good 6 months, I listen to it.
18:04:28 It just takes a lot of courage to actually say that.
18:04:31 I can't say that, because I know I am into that zone like not comfort zone. But this is something like.
18:04:38 We're not demeaning 9 to 5 here, but it's like.
18:04:42 It's like more of like, you know, somebody who really wants to change.
18:04:46 Yeah.
18:04:51 Yeah.
18:04:47 Maybe, like people like me are really good with 9 to 5, and we're able to do our volunteering experiences after that. But there are times when you have that passion like you have it.
18:04:57 And you really want to like like.
18:05:07 Yeah.
18:05:11 Absolutely.
18:04:59 Just not limited to 6 h, like I want to do it for like I do it for my job for 8 to 9 h like undivided attention to it, and just not during my off work hours, but.
18:05:13 Absolutely, and I would. I would kind of correct you there once you don't have a 9 to 5. It's not gonna be 8 to 9 h. It's definitely gonna be 24 h.
18:05:22 You would breathe in, you would wake up, and you'd like, Oh, that client.
18:05:25 Oh, that person like I wake up so the thing I didn't like about myself earlier was like, Oh, I use so much phone, right? I was like, Oh, I need. I literally have a book which is called Breakup with your phone. Okay? And I read it.
18:05:36 I have it in my hand. And I'm like scrolling on my phone. I was like, Yeah, there is no breakup happening.
18:05:40 But there is, there is. It's gonna be 24 h for you. Right? So be prepared for someone who's trying to switch. I would say first, st definitely, to all these market research, figure out, test the waters, see if there is a scope. But second is mindset preparation. That means you're ready for challenges. You're ready to fail. More important. You are ready to be literally nobody and then be somebody. See? In 9 to 5 you're somebody. I was a recruit. I was literally somebody people would want.
18:06:05 Me uh! People would find me for meetings. People would want rare to do something right.
18:06:09 Once you are off that 9 to 5 the next day. You have nothing on your calendar, almost nothing.
18:06:15 Second.
18:06:17 Nobody is asking you to do something to the 0 accountability. You're gonna be your own accountability partner.
18:06:23 And 3, rd and the most important thing you need to be ready to face a challenge that not everything is gonna work out, and you would not have any teammate any resources to actually lean on to, especially in the beginning. I now have teammate. I have a social media person. I have a Linkedin person who actually looks after it. And and then they look after the digital media and all of that as well. And I'm like, you know I'm like, gonna sit and do this.
18:06:45 Um, but.
18:06:46 In the beginning there is literally nobody right. So you've got to be ready for it. And now what will make that ready for you one that idea. So, of course, sit with whosoever you need to sit with and discuss that idea. I sat with my spouse right. My family still doesn't know about it. My um! I sat with my spouse. That that reminds me. I can't share this with them. But then I sat with I sat with my spouse, and we spoke about it.
18:07:09 And then.
18:07:10 If you, if you are with your parents, sit with them and make them understand that, why.
18:07:16 You would do this, and then for that, you need to have the whatever market research you did in the last couple of months by doing it part time. And then this is like, this is what I see. I really want to give it a try.
18:07:26 I make sure that you have some savings for the next 6 months, because life is very answered, and you don't know what would happen. So I have a saving for a year when I started because I was like, if something doesn't work out.
18:07:41 Let's.
18:07:38 I can live happily for a year, and then probably backpack.
18:07:41 And then.
18:07:42 That's the best. I would love to clap for it that you know.
18:07:47 Those things are, I guess, really important. And this is like a very big step like.
18:07:51 Yeah.
18:07:52 It's not like.
18:07:53 You can go back to your previous life, and you know, be part of 9 to 5. You know there are things that you, you know, crossed, you know, these are things and a lot of other things. And now you took up all those experiences and using it.
18:08:07 Yeah.
18:08:07 But you're your own motivator.
18:08:14 Yeah.
18:08:16 Yeah.
18:08:10 Everything, you know, and I'm so glad that you started up as one. Now you are a team of 3 or 4 folks, including spouse, as usual.
18:08:19 So, you know, that's like a big achievement. And obviously.
18:08:30 Thank you.
18:08:39 Hmm.
18:08:23 I don't know if anyone has not seen your videos or been not part of your broadcast channel, but it's really great, like there is a lot of important information. And that's really important, like, I guess at my time last year there weren't such videos. Or you know, I maybe I did not explore more.
18:08:42 Hmm.
18:08:47 Yeah.
18:08:52 Totally.
18:08:43 But this is something that's really important where people talk about things, talk about experiences. And this can actually be a stepping stone for others, and you being.
18:08:52 From the, you know, from the recruitment background. And then you did your masters in, you know. Uh.
18:08:59 Business administration. So all those things really like help folks and build up. And obviously the Us. Culture with all those programs. What are your thoughts there and then you can implement the same here in the country. So.
18:09:13 Absolutely.
18:09:14 Coming back to the next part is more of. I know you were a recruiter, and you had, you know, reviewed a lot of lot of resumes covered because a lot of difficult conversation with people and a lot of other things, and a lot of, you know, useless messages coming on Linkedin people connecting without any context.
18:09:36 So.
18:09:51 Totally.
18:09:36 I just want you to quickly like talk about. I I know there could be a lot of do's and don'ts there, which you have seen, and that's what you are using it with the current, you know, work as well, so that you express much as a recruiter and make people realize things. So anything that you want like that stood out as the Major don't, or the major like this has to be done.
18:10:00 Asap like you can't skip it at all, or way of communication. Cold messaging like.
18:10:06 Yeah.
18:10:06 How did you perceive it, and how obviously I know there are things.
18:10:14 Hmm.
18:10:15 That's okay, have.
18:10:18 Phone item.
18:10:12 Uh that you organize at your end to talk about all things. I don't want to kill them much more, but.
18:10:19 Incised, where where we can talk about few things.
18:10:22 Yeah, absolutely. And then, yeah, I talk about these in my services, of course. But I'm glad that we can talk about it here as well. Um, so 1st of all, we'll start a little bit with the international students coming in. I would definitely say that.
18:10:36 Do not underestimate the power of Linkedin and networking online or offline. I mean, write it down somewhere.
18:10:43 Anywhere like. I have weird, sticky notes here on my laptop in the and you know, on my screen, and the 1st things that I say, is like networking like it's literally written in the in the caps, because that's the most important thing in wherever you, coming from, a lot of countries do not have that presence of Linkedin or social medias. Right? You want to be a part of it, for whatever reasons. Either you're just talking people.
18:11:05 You're engaging with them, you're creating content. You're reaching out whatever you're trying to do. Just be out there. That's 1 that's I mean, that's a must have for anybody who's trying to trying to do a masters here.
18:11:15 Um, second would definitely be that have that online presence. That means that if I land on your profile, someone, or if I actually.
18:11:24 Come and speak with you.
18:11:26 Create that presence of yourself. So either have that online presence. That means your profile is updated. When I look at it, I don't have to have a conversation with you and ask, What do you do? Exactly right.
18:11:36 I should not be asking you that you're somebody and your work experience should be saying that.
18:11:39 But if you meet me offline, and if I say, Hey, someone, what do you do?
18:11:43 You should. I'm like, oh, mhm, and then you're speaking after 5, seconds. Because you don't know what to say, right have a very semi professional elevator pitch ready.
18:11:53 For every conversation. Once you are here.
18:11:56 Very basic question that you would get as an international student. What did you do back in India, or what did you back in your country? Um!
18:12:02 And then, second, would definitely be um. Why are you doing your masters here like what brings you to us right? Or what brings you to this uh degree.
18:12:11 These are very basic questions. If you don't have like, you should have that in your back pocket is what I would say, because.
18:12:19 As much as you think that I'm doing a degree. What else do you all need.
18:12:24 We need that in you.
18:12:26 Literally not a degree on paper, a little degree in UN in your brain. If you don't have that.
18:12:32 I'm not sure as a recruiter, if I would understand. And that's again. It's a very early stage which is coming in. But then even a recruiter. I would look at your Linkedin, and I would see, and I do find candidates to Linkedin as well. If I don't find that as you may. I mean their Linkedin is there as you may. So I would say.
18:12:47 Linkedin. Yes, networking. Yes.
18:12:49 Your job. Search starts from day. One of your university. Not last day.
18:12:54 Yeah. So you know, th, there are a lot of features like uh.
18:12:58 I have been using Linkedin from India.
18:13:01 Uh, but you know the way I used it here in the States, it was really different, like, okay, at that time I was just looking out, maybe, you know, for different posts.
18:13:12 I attended couple of events, so I put up that. So when I look back to those post and to the ones that I do right now.
18:13:20 It's like, it's like, this is the difference. Like.
18:13:23 I'm really like I don't want to like. Put them as my post enabled how to remove them totally. So you know you understand what are the few key words that you want to talk about? You want to go ahead with. You know what links you're mentioning? What are the hashtags that you're using. And then there is a way, obviously, to find people on Linkedin. You know.
18:13:47 And Linkedin has also matured in its ways. Where you know who is hiring, there is a headline and a lot of you know, these things have changed that that has helped me actually. And I'm like a full time like Fan of Linkedin. I use it day in, day out. So you know I understand the importance of networking. Being a student myself.
18:14:08 And I am no longer a student right now, but I still connect with a lot of folks.
18:14:12 And that's 1 thing that keeps me going, that okay, I am in a new city now in Dallas.
18:14:17 Let's just connect to a lot of folks in Dallas. Let's just see what are the different events going on. The local events that I can attend, and similarly you may have done it for Seattle as well. So.
18:14:28 I have been to one event where I wasn't able to talk much like.
18:14:33 Uh, you know, there was some sort of fear that if I'd say anything that would be all trash. So let's just explore. See how things are working on, and you know, and then eventually, you.
18:14:44 Get yourself accustomed. Okay?
18:14:47 Then you get to know that. Okay, these set of questions would anyways come from everyone that what do you do? Where do you work. Okay, this, that this, that. And then you understand. Okay, you have to come up with. Uh.
18:15:08 Wow!
18:15:00 You know, fun questions a bit. You need to watch some weekend matches, have some context about it. I've had those conversation during interviews as well like, you know. Uh, when Atlanta usually has, like the baseball match, or any other match.
18:15:14 Usually ask me the interviews, and I used to be prepped up with it. And this is somehow you gain some interest in the weekend activities and talk about it. So, yeah, those are the things that.
18:15:25 You'll not. I understand that you not understand. On the day one like you mentioned, it takes time for you to get past it and get it inside you that okay, you have to do like this.
18:15:36 Correct, correct, and honestly.
18:15:38 Um. And that's for everybody, someone because we have gone through it right? So now we know that experience is not difficult to learn, something new for the weekends, I would definitely say, for anybody who's new.
18:15:47 It's it's it would sound very intimidating at the beginning, because you would probably not understand any sports or any conversations that you know people here are having.
18:15:56 Um.
18:15:56 But.
18:15:57 The idea is not to learn everything that they're saying. But then the idea is to engage with what they're saying. Even if they're engaging in you. Can you can go and be like that's interesting. I've never seen a match. Um, would, you know, when next one happening? And I can probably learn something, and then maybe we can watch it together. That's maybe that's a way to approach it. You don't have to sit and do your homework and watch Google and or like, learn from Google watch. Imagine, then, go and have a conversation.
18:16:21 That's the way you engage with somebody when they're saying something, and if you don't know about it, you can just go and be like. Well, that's interesting. I've never heard um. Would you care to elaborate more, or I would love to know more about it? Where do I watch it? Tell me so.
18:16:45 I. I made that in a month because I wanted everything out there that worked out really well for me. And that's there on my social media. That's my shameless Plugin. But then I really want people to look at it.
18:16:56 No worries.
18:16:57 I really want people to come and spam you. I I would really love it like that would be my biggest win uh through this. Podcast. So we'll have, like everyone, don't be stressed. We'll have all her, you know, social media handles, her ebook link everything down in the description. So you're not losing out on anything. Stay there. We're all good, you know. I am that kind of a person. If I hear anything I'll just open a different tab.
18:17:22 And start searching. So I just wanted to like, tell everyone you can just scroll down, see the description. You'll have everything.
18:17:29 And obviously, since we're talking about the ebook, I really wanted to ask you, uh, you know, for my audience here, whoever is listening. Uh! Do you have any recent workshops? Anything that they should be excited about that should come out on your social media soon, and they could be part of it.
18:17:46 Absolutely, absolutely. I'm glad you asked. So every month I do. One workshop on top made um for multiple reasons, one. Because there is.
18:17:53 I mean, I just want to be out to answer questions without taking any money in return.
18:17:57 But then also, second, most important, this is a way that people can actually say that resources are available. Come either the community. Other people who might be job seeking, or you know, who might be looking for other resources. So yes, my, I don't have a fixed state, but one is coming in August, and everything would be available. My social media. I'm loud out there. You'll probably listen here. Everything that's happening throughout the day on my social media. So find me Linkedin and Instagram at the.
18:18:21 Are the best places to find me and all my um workshops, because we didn't say that specifically. So I really want to say that all my workshops are related with.
18:18:30 Job search and personal development, like professional development in general, which is like confidence communication. But then the bigger pieces are resume. Linkedin optimization and interview. I do a lot of mock interviews, and because the market is hot right now, we've been doing a lot already. So I would say, check out my profiles. If you are anywhere in that space.
18:18:52 I would love.
18:18:54 To have a lot of folks there, and uh.
18:18:56 A workshop is a really great thing where you talk about a lot of things. And currently, we really need a lot of help with folks where they want to understand more on the design reviews.
18:19:05 You know.
18:19:11 Hmm.
18:19:07 Fortnightly. I get a lot of you like resumes from my juniors or people on the Linkedin. They want me to, you know, correct few things, and.
18:19:21 Yeah.
18:19:27 No.
18:19:14 I do that like, but still coming down from a coach who knows the best, and you do have that background of recruitment as well, and you would know what things work and whatnot I'm still on that side that my hand 100 resume is got on those organizations. I am, till that person who would not know much. And you know I would really want to stress here to all the audience who is listening right now, or watching us on any of the platforms.
18:19:40 That you know. Just scroll down, see the description. See her handles. There are loads and loads of videos. Because I'm more of a video person.
18:19:48 Thanks.
18:19:48 So.
18:19:49 Yeah.
18:20:07 Thank you.
18:19:49 You know, I really understand more with all those things. So you know, just check it out. What one or 2 see how it just relates with your life. If you need any sort of help, the top meet link would also be there schedule some time. Have a conversation. I've had a conversation with her. She's really easy to talk to. Nothing. Worry about that, you know. It's more of a professional setup, but it's not like that.
18:20:13 So, you know, it's always good to take help, and if somebody is offering it so openly, just go for it, like I would really say go for it, and.
18:20:23 And rest. You'll see all her handles down the ebook, the top link, all the social media handles where she's active, and you know, probably she's here for a bigger cause to help everyone, and I would really want you to take that help so that she could.
18:20:39 Spread, that everywhere.
18:20:41 So.
18:20:41 Absolutely.
18:20:42 Thank you. Thank you for.
18:20:42 And I'm really excited for that August of talking as well.
18:20:45 I'm excited for it as well, and thank you so much. I mean everything that you said. I. I couldn't have said that better. So thank you so much for promoting it the way that I want, because I definitely wanna be that person that looks like a not star for people who have no idea.
18:21:02 You know.
18:21:00 That. What do we do next from here like? Whom do we speak with? So we have some clarity, because I face that when I came here and I was absolutely in dark. And then I was like, Okay, I'm gonna be that person for everybody. Um. So I'm glad that you found me, and when we were talking about Linkedin, I really wanted us to say that. That's how we found each other so.
18:21:17 Yeah.
18:21:17 Yes, that that's how like I stopped like she mentioned you could stop. I stopped her. Then I stopped her on Instagram, and you know. That's how we connected with each other, and you know I called her up as a guest here, and one thing that I wanted to also talk about is Cherry on the top is, you know, we are international students.
18:21:48 Yeah.
18:21:36 Like she has been on each phone and then f 1. And now you know, each 4 again. So there's a lot to actually talk about. You know everyone has question. I can't, you know, agree to that fact that nobody would have questions on these.
18:21:50 They would have, and she has a lot of things, and plus uh an Mba degree as well. So you know, it's like.
18:22:06 Yeah, yeah.
18:22:11 Yeah.
18:21:56 You know, a club of a lot of things that you can ask her and touch base with her, and as we mentioned, like we got hold of each other from Linkedin itself. So it's not like we've met anywhere or anything of that sort. I've been stalking her, and then I reached out to her that if you would love to come and talk about your experience, because this one is different.
18:22:16 And I know a lot of us are on H. 4. Or maybe you know, something needs to be worked out there. So this is more of, you know, for those people and anyone else who is also, you know, on wanting to come on f 1 to Seattle University. So that's another thing on the boat.
18:22:32 Absolutely.
18:22:32 So.
18:22:53 Yeah.
18:22:33 There was a lot of things discussed. And you know I really loved talking to you before and now, during the podcast. As well, that you shared everything very honestly, and you know that was something that you know, I really wanted everyone to know. Uh, and this was a different case as well. Where you have, you know, gone through multiple visa checkpoint.
18:22:54 But as you want to share anything for the incoming international students or to the current H, 4 people.
18:23:01 Anything as your advice that you want to give out. I know there have a couple of them during the podcast but something.
18:23:07 Wrap up at the end.
18:23:09 Totally um. So I'll give like 2 advisors. One is for the f 1 students who are now coming to us. I would definitely say that.
18:23:17 Um.
18:23:17 Think what factors are in picture when you're designing a university. And then, second.
18:23:23 Degree is not just a piece of paper degrees. Everything you put in for those 2 years, because your Roi would definitely be through networking through what you learn communication events that you've been part of. Even add stupid, as like inviting our guest, guest, speaker from outside, and nobody showing up. But then you were showing up that scales of leadership, organizing, figuring out things, reporting documentation, whatever.
18:23:44 So.
18:23:45 Just be out there. Don't just worry about this and assessments. Assignments. Just be out there doing anything and everything that you can and should be doing on your balance and skill. Um, and then for h 4 people, I would definitely say, if you haven't thought about doing a degree, I would definitely say, do a degree. If your finances allow that.
18:24:04 Sit and speak to your, to your family, to your spouses, and then make.
18:24:08 Sure that.
18:24:09 Kind of pay them back or pay back to the household somehow, because that'll give you very big motivation to do it.
18:24:22 Totally.
18:24:16 I agree to that point, and independence is something which will come from all the directions. So that's something you like. Think about it. If not, talk to her like.
18:24:26 Hi, Nick.
18:24:27 See, this 1 point is, yeah, find me in encryption box.
18:24:32 But we have.
18:24:32 I had such a great time chatting with you. I mean, this was really good, and thank you so much for finding me stalking me like you say, and then thank you so much for showing so much love to my work, because again, as um as funny, content creators, everybody get that get that love right. But when you trying to do something very educative, it becomes difficult to to know if people are, if it's actually reaching the right audience, and if people are loving it.
18:24:52 It's really amazing.
18:24:54 Thank you.
18:25:10 Oh! What!
18:25:10 Yes.
18:25:13 Totally.
18:24:54 Yeah, it's really amazing. And I think, like it should reach to the broader audience. If it's not, I think so it is. But if it's not. And through this podcast, people listening can actually go up and see those. And if it helps like one or 2 folks, I think so, it's like a bigger achieve for us like that's the impact that we're talking about. And you know.
18:25:15 I know it would have taken you many days, many hours, a lot of things on stake.
18:25:22 Yeah.
18:25:22 Do you know where? Out with this and help? So that's like really commendable. And I'm really thankful for you to have that and helping everyone with your experience. And you know people are getting help there. So I've seen all those videos I can say. But for others I'm just pushing them to.
18:25:39 Absolutely. Thank you so much. And I like, I said, like, I've learned it from somebody. I just want to keep that going on. So I just wanna teach somebody else as well.
18:25:46 Yeah.
18:25:47 Perfect, so.
18:25:47 Thank you. Someone.
18:25:55 Thank you.
18:25:48 I was like a good wrap up, and I want to say thanks again, share for being here on its magazine, and you know people would be loving, hearing you uh, sharing all those things.
18:25:59 And Dutch. Would. I really want you to be spanned everywhere?
18:26:03 Thank you. I hope that happens.
18:26:06 I I look at, too. So see you everyone again soon, with another episode, with another story.
18:26:13 And.
18:26:13 Hi everyone stay safe.