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Where is Everybody? The SETI Paradox | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams

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What if the reason we're not hearing from aliens is that everyone out there is listening, but no one is broadcasting messages?

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Host | Matthew S Williams

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Episode Notes

What if the reason we're not hearing from aliens is that everyone out there is listening, but no one is broadcasting messages? This is the essence of the "SETI Paradox" and the ongoing debate between proponents of SETI and METI - Messaging Extraterrestrial Intelligence

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Beyond Fermi's Paradox: What is the "SETI Paradox" Hypothesis?: https://www.universetoday.com/149513/beyond-fermis-paradox-xvii-what-is-the-seti-paradox-hypothesis/

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Episode Transcription

Where is Everybody? The SETI Paradox | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams

SETI Paradox

[00:00:00] The authors acknowledge that this podcast was recorded on the

traditional unceded lands of the Lekwungen peoples. Hello and welcome back

to Stories from Space. I'm your host Matt Williams, and today we are going to

be capping off our ongoing series about the proposed resolutions to the Fermi

Paradox by looking at what is known as the SETI Paradox.

Now, this theory essentially states that what if the reason we haven't heard any

transmissions or seen any evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations is that

everyone is listening, but no one is broadcasting. Everyone is listening to the

cosmos for signs of transmissions from other potential civilizations, but no one

is broadcasting messages of hello, greetings, is anybody out there?

And possibly out of fear, but for any number of reasons. Now, a key point to all

of this is the distinction [00:01:00] between what is known as Passive SETI and

Active SETI, which has really only become formalized in recent years. Passive

SETI describes listening to the universe for signs of transmissions, whereas

Active SETI consists of trying to make contact with extraterrestrial civilizations

by sending messages.

And this has since come to be known as Messaging Extraterrestrial Intelligence,

or METI, which in recent years has become its own separate field. And as we

explored in previous podcasts, SETI experiments have been going on since the

1960s, even though there were a few predecessors, a few Pathfinder studies,

such as those conducted by Nikola Tesla.

In particular, in 1899, while he was conducting experiments in his laboratory in

Colorado Springs. However, arguably the first true SETI experiment was

Project Ozma in 1960, which was [00:02:00] conducted by Cornell astronomer

and inventor of the Drake Equation, Frank Drake, and his colleagues at the

Green Bank Observatory.

So it's fair to say that SETI experiments go back at least 60 years at this point.

And in that time, only a few METI experiments have been conducted. In fact,

the concept itself didn't really emerge as a distinct idea until 2006 when Russian

scientist Alexander Zaitsev coined the term and he said that the science known

as SETI deals with searching for messages from aliens.

METI science deals with the creation of messages to aliens, thus SETI and

METI proponents have quite different perspectives. SETI scientists are in aposition to address only the local question, does active SETI make sense? In

other words, would it be reasonable for SETI's success to transmit with the

object of attracting ETI's attention?

In contrast to active SETI, [00:03:00] METI pursues not a local and lucrative

impulse, but a more global and unselfish one, to overcome the great silence in

the universe, you. Bringing to our extraterrestrial neighbors the long expected

annunciation, you are not alone. And as I said, the history of METI, the number

of experiments that have been conducted, it's humble compared to the many

SETI surveys that have been conducted over the past six decades.

And these experiments, they benefited not only from NASA support and

support from the Soviet government to Soviet's own experiments, but in more

recent years from the private sector in the form of Breakthrough Listen, which

is the largest SETI survey ever conducted. It began in January 2016 as part of a

10 year experiment with 100 million dollars in funding and thousands of hours

of dedicated telescope time from multiple state of the art facilities, including the

Green Bank Telescope, the same facility where Project Osmo was

conducted.[00:04:00]

Nevertheless, many experiments 20 years. Almost as long as SETI experiments

have, and the first attempt was in 1962, when a team of Soviet scientists from

the Evpatoria Planetary Radar Center in Crimea sent what's known as the Morse

Message. And this consisted of a radio transmission sent in Morse code, which

relayed the letters M I R, or Mir, the Russian word for peace, followed by Lenin

and S S S R.

And in 1974, The most powerful and famous broadcast was sent to space from

the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. And this was known as the Arecibo

message, and it consisted of a 1679 bit transmission arranged into 73 lines, with

23 characters per line, in binary code. And binary code was specifically chosen

because it was believed, then and now, [00:05:00] that mathematics is the only

universal language that an extraterrestrial intelligence would be capable of

recognizing and processing.

That would not be tainted by cultural bias or what have you. And when the code

was broken down, it revealed a set of simple images that showed the Arecibo

telescope, the solar system, a representation of the double helix structure of our

DNA, a stick figure of a human, and some of the chemicals that are integral to

terrestrial life.And this message was aimed at the globular star cluster M13, which is roughly

21, 000 light years away near the edge of the Milky Way, which was seen as a

good candidate for hosting sun like systems and possibly Earth like planets. So

it seemed like a good candidate for making contact with civilization.

And by the turn of the century, and with the end of the Cold War, there were

renewed attempts and renewed interests. [00:06:00] Between 1999 and 2003,

scientists, once again at the Evpatoria Planetary Radar Center, sent three

transmissions out that were named Cosmic Call 1, Teenage Message, and

Cosmic Call 2. And whereas the two cosmic calls consisted of code denoting

the alphabet, numbers, the periodic table, and scientific concepts, the teenage

message consisted of an analog message encoded in music with digital data,

including images and text, and a coherent sounding signal.

And in 2008, NASA followed this up by transmitting the song Across the

Universe by the Beatles towards Polaris, otherwise known as the North Star.

This was done using the 70 meter or 230 foot dish of NASA's Deep Space

Network, located at the Madrid Deep Space Communication Complex. And this

event marked a number of [00:07:00] anniversaries.

In addition to NASA's 50th, it was the 45th anniversary of the Deep Space

Network and the 40th anniversary since the song's recording. And speaking of

anniversaries, in 2012, which coincided with the 35th anniversary of the WOW

signal, which was the most compelling radio transmission from space ever

recorded, in 1977, And which is still considered by many to be the strongest

candidate for a possible transmission from an extraterrestrial civilization.

So, to mark this occasion, a reply signal, known as the WOW Reply, was

transmitted from the Arecibo Observatory. And it consisted of more than 10,

000 Twitter messages and videos submitted by celebrities and willing

participants. And in 2016, another campaign known as a Simple Response to an

Elemental Message was transmitted from the [00:08:00] ESA's Sobrero Station

towards Polaris.

And this message consisted of 3, 775 worldwide responses to the question, How

will our present environmental interactions shape the future? And this was

accompanied by a series of images of Earth. And, as I mentioned, in 2016,

Breakthrough Initiatives, which is responsible for Breakthrough Listen, the

largest and most dedicated SETI experiment to date, alongside this, they

launched Breakthrough Message as well in 2016, which was an international

competition to create an interstellar message.And to encourage debate and raise awareness of how humanity could someday

communicate with extraterrestrial intelligence and whether or not we should

attempt this. As such, there's no plans to send the message yet, not until a long,

wide ranging debate has taken place between scientists and world leaders about

the [00:09:00] ethical implications.

And so, while METI experiments have been ongoing, and have been taking

place SETI experiments have, there is a disparity between the two, in terms of

overall funding, commitment, effort, and just the sheer number of experiments

taking place. In fact, according to Zaitsev, the ratio between METI and SETI

experiments is about 1 to 100.

So, about 1 percent as much effort has gone into messaging extraterrestrials as it

has searching for signs of their transmissions. And as Zaitsev explained, this

data followed from a review of Jill Tartar's collection of papers, which were

called SETI 2020, released in 2003, Jill Tartar being the famed SETI researcher,

for whom the character in CONTACT Carl Sagan's story and the movie

[00:10:00] adaptation about SETI researchers making contact for the first time.

The character played by Jodie Foster was based on Jill Tarter. And according to

her collection of papers, Zaitsev said, It lists 100 various SETI programs

starting from the first OSMA project to our time. The total time of search is

several years, whereas the total transmission time is only 37 hours.

This characterizes the attitude of researchers. However, we must also take into

account the metaphobia inherent to the planetary consciousness as a whole. In

short, he was saying that, yes, the reason why SETI experiments outnumber

METI experiments is because there is a lot of fear, some would say entirely

justified fear, that by sending out transmissions of greetings and is anybody out

there and alerting the universe to our presence, That we are tempting fate,

basically.

We are letting a potentially hostile, more advanced [00:11:00] species out there,

or several, we're letting them know exactly where we are, and we are practically

rolling out the welcome mat to them. And this is something that a number of

scientists have cautioned against, not the least of which is Stephen Hawking,

and famed scientist and author David Brin.

In 2006, Brin published an article titled, Should We Be Shouting at the

Cosmos?, where he summarized the objections that many notable scientists had

to METI. And as he put it, Let there be no mistake. METI is a very different

thing than passively sifting for signals from outer space. Carl Sagan, one of thegreatest SETI supporters and a deep believer in the notion of altruistic alien

civilizations, called such a move deeply unwise and immature.

Even Frank Drake, who famously sent the Arecibo message towards the

Andromeda Galaxy in 1974, considered active SETI to be, at best, a stunt and

generally a waste of time. Sagan, along with early SETI pioneer Philip

[00:12:00] Morrison, recommended that the newest children in a strange and

uncertain cosmos should listen quietly for a long time, patiently learning about

the universe and comparing notes, before shouting into an unknown jungle that

we do not understand.

But of course, what if this is the reason that humanity hasn't heard any signals

yet in the course of its SETI experiments? What if, in fact, we are not the

newcomers to this whole cosmic arena? If, in fact, life and technologically

advanced civilizations, if they're a recent addition to the universe, Then it would

make sense that all civilizations that are currently existing in the Milky Way

right now are holding back when it comes to Broadcasting their existence

because they don't know what's out there they fear that they could be inviting an

invasion or an attack by a hostile species and This of course is very much in

keeping with the dark forest hypothesis Which we reviewed in another episode

and this essentially argues [00:13:00] that Intelligent civilizations are not in the

habit of broadcasting their existence because of a little thing known as chains of

suspicion.

In this case, you have benevolent civilizations who may very well outnumber

malevolent ones by ten, a hundred, a thousand to one. But given the fact that we

don't know what the intentions of any other civilization are, We are not prepared

to make contact with them. We're not prepared to advertise our existence.

Malevolent civilizations, on the other hand, would very likely project their own

intentions onto others and assume that if they were to broadcast, Here we are, is

anybody out there? that another civilization would capitalize on that. And

further, in keeping with the chain of suspicion, The benevolent civilization and

otherwise peaceful civilization is left to consider whether it would be wise to

attack first and ask questions later, rather than risk being overrun by a

malevolent civilization.

So [00:14:00] there is an inherent logic to this. There is a Certain instinctive

logic to it. Oftentimes, it's assumed that extraterrestrial intelligence will be more

highly evolved, more advanced than we are. They can't possibly be worse than

us, is often the reasoning too. So this does introduce a bit of Machiavellian

scheming into the mix, a certain sort of realism or real politic.It recognizes that an extraterrestrial intelligence out there is likely to have the

same instincts as us, self preservation, fear of the unknown. And so, therefore,

they're not going to give their position away. They'd much rather find out who's

out there, get a feel for things first. However, this hypothesis Chief Strength

may also be its biggest weakness.

It assumes, like many other proposed resolutions to the Fermi Paradox, a certain

uniformity of motive. It [00:15:00] assumes that all extraterrestrial civilizations

in our universe today, and certainly within our galaxy, are all following the

same basic protocol. Stay quiet, don't broadcast. And so, it would only require

one civilization, or a minority of civilizations, breaking with this protocol, and

you no longer have a Great Silence.

And, as the history of many on Earth shows, that there isn't even uniformity of

motivation for us, as a single species. We don't follow this basic protocol where

we refuse to broadcast, we've done it several times, and there are people and

organizations and institutions. All they really need is access to a radio telescope.

And so if the means exist, they will do it. They'll send out a signal. And as

Douglas Bacotch, the president of the METI Society, he argued that if, in fact, a

message were ever detected, we would not be able to prevent a [00:16:00]

cacophony of responses from Earth. So any transmissions that are sent out are

likely to get a ton of answers.

At which point you could say goodbye to the great silence and hello to the great

hubba, or the interstellar message board, because there's gonna have to be some

kind of organization to all these signals, all these calls, who's talking at who,

wait, was that for us, or was that meant for Earth, Proxima Centauri B, What

have you.

Now that still leaves room for the possibility that what we're seeing right now,

since humanity first began using radio telescopes and radio transmitters roughly

a century ago, is a lull. That there is a period of silence, which is caused either

by a lack of advanced civilizations in our galaxy right now, perhaps the older

ones died off, or they transcended, in the sense that they are [00:17:00] using

advanced technology to communicate that we would have no means of listening

to, such as quantum communications, that's one suggestion.

Or solar gravitational lenses to send enhanced signals with quantum encryption

or that in fact, we're currently in a state of transition where civilizations exist in

multiple places in our galaxy, not yet close enough to listen in on just radio

traffic, radio noise that's been broadcast from Earth for you.Yes, about a century now, and that they too are concerned and wary about

sending out a message of sufficient strength to truly reach another star system,

or better yet, towards a star system they know has habitable planets. And so

therefore, we may be finding ourselves in a period where a whole bunch of

species are capable of making contact, or they're getting to the point where

[00:18:00] there would be.

And. We're all just waiting for somebody to make the first move, because we all

share the same basic fear. So, that too does assume a certain uniformity of

motive, but with the caveat that this won't last. Our galaxy may have been noisy

before, and it may once again become noisy. We're just in a intervening period

where There's no discernible radio traffic that we can pick up on right now.

And as always, there's the argument that perhaps we're just not listening in on

the right frequencies. We're not tuned to the right station, so to speak, that we're

not looking in the right place and that we need to consider other techno

signatures. And so like every other proposed Fermi paradox solution, the SETI

paradox reminds us that we have a limited frame of reference, and anything we

suggest is going to be subject to assumptions and bias, [00:19:00] and yet we

really have no choice but to accept it.

So drawn with that and attempt to test these theories by coming up with

hypothetical scenarios. We therefore established constraints on what we're

looking for, where we're looking for it and eliminating certain possibilities and

certain ranges of frequencies. With every strategy that we test, even though it

may reveal no evidence of extraterrestrial life out there, it moves the ball

forward or pushes the rock just a little bit more up that hill.

It's much like rocket testing. There really is no such thing as failure. You test

again and again and again, and you accumulate data over time, and this is how

ultimately success becomes routine and habitual. So, in short, we just need to

keep looking, and we need to keep coming up with theories that we can test.

Not only because it gives us something to look for, but it [00:20:00] lets us

know if the tests fail to produce any viable technosignatures, we know what not

to look for. And frankly, I can think of no better words to conclude this segment

on proposed resolution to the Fermi Paradox. Keep looking, keep theorizing,

keep testing, keep moving the ball forward.

Because if something is in fact out there, if there are advanced and

technologically inclined civilizations, some of which may be far more advanced

than our own, we will find it eventually. So thank you to my listeners who havebeen with this podcast and the segment there from the beginning. For those who

joined later on, I recommend that you go back and check out all episodes with

the tagline, Where is everybody?

Because there are some very, very fascinating answers to that question. And I've

enjoyed it immensely reading about them and researching the different theories,

[00:21:00] the different proposed hypotheses over the years, and really just

wanted to share the same sense of inspiration and awe and mystery that they

instilled in me.

And I hope that I've accomplished that here, at least to a point. So tune in next

week when we will be discussing the Chinese space program, its inception, its

evolution over time, and what it is poised to do in the coming years and

decades. We'll also be looking at the Indian space program and expect

additional episodes on indigenous astronomy where we take a look at the

Mayan traditions and the traditions of the indigenous people of the Pacific

Northwest.

In the meantime, thank you for listening. I'm Matt Williams and this has been

Stories from Space.